Aug. 3, 2026

Shifting Forward: An Update on Electromagnetic Balance

Shifting Forward: An Update on Electromagnetic Balance

Dr. Kate Keville was born and raised in Bellevue, Ohio, the daughter of Irish immigrants. She served in U.S. Army Military Intelligence before turning her focus to health and wellness — eventually opening four vegetarian restaurants built around the philosophy that food is medicine. She holds a Bachelor's in Education from Ohio State and a Doctorate of Chiropractic from Sherman College, and over her 30-year practice, she's helped patients from across the U.S. and around the world. With more than 10,000 hours of training in holistic health, nutrition, homeopathy, applied kinesiology, and neurofeedback, she's spent her career restoring balance for people who'd lost hope.

Through her research, Dr. Keville discovered that the human electromagnetic field has drastically diminished — the result of environmental toxins and constant exposure to technology, including cell phones, computers, and the rollout of 5G. To better understand this decline, she turned to the work of pioneers like Nikola Tesla, Walter Russell, Manly P. Hall, and Dr. Joe Dispenza.

Today, we're shifting forward with an update on electromagnetic balance and the body's natural rhythms. Dr. Keville is back to talk about her Tesla-inspired technology, The Shift™ Device — technology she says may enhance energy, increase circulation, and provide a sense of joy. We'll dig into new observations she's calling blood cells "dancing" again, the toll of 5G may be taking on our wellness, and how the body is always seeking balance.

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The Shift Device

About Dr Kate Keville

Dr Kate on the importance of Sleep

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With that, Dr. Kate Keville was born and raised in Bellevue, Ohio, the daughter of Irish immigrants. She served in U.S. Army military intelligence before turning her focus to health and wellness. Eventually opening four vegetarian restaurants built around the philosophy that food is medicine. She holds a bachelor's in education from Ohio State and a doctorate of chiropractic from Sherman College. And over her 30-year practice, she's helped patients from across the US and around the world with more than 10,000 hours of training in holistic health, nutrition, homeopathy, applied kinesiology, and neurofeedback. She spent her career restoring balance for people who'd lost hope. Through her research, Dr. Keville discovered that the human electromagnetic field has drastically diminished the result of environmental toxins and constant exposure to technology, including cell phones, computers, and the rollout of 5G. To better stand this decline, she turned to the work of pioneers like Nicola Tesla, Walter Russell, Manly P. Hall, and Dr. Joe Dispenza. Today we're shifting forward with an update on electromagnetic balance and the body's natural rhythms. Dr. Keville is back to talk about her Tesla-inspired technology, the shift device. Technology she says may enhance energy, increase circulation, increase, and provide a sense of joy. We'll dig into new observations. She's calling blood cells dancing again. The toll of 5G may be taking our wellness and how the body is always seeking balance. Welcome, Dr. Kate.

Dr Kate Keville: Hello. Thank you so much for having me, Richard.

TalkToMeGuy : So many questions. I have enough questions for like three hours of show. It's really amazing. Every time I dive into your work and the benefits and talk to people, since I know people with shift devices. It's once people use the shift.

I think they never go back, and I mean that in the best of ways, that they just notice a difference in their vitality. But that's not my question yet. Okay. I've read by now because I've read and heard, I've listened to a bunch and read a lot. I know that I've heard you say that the technology traces back to Nicola Tesla in his own cholera diagnosis in the night 1860s. Would you talk about that and tell us how it led to the violet wand and eventually the shift device?

Dr Kate Keville: Yes. he was very sick with cholera and he tried everything and then he created something similar to the shift. Of course, back then it was only nine or ten volts. and he created it and then eventually somebody actually He had so much success with it. So not only did he cure himself of cholera, then it started using it on other sick people. He was cursing things curing things like pneumonia and asthma and various things.

And then I don't quite know his history too much. So much of it was lost, but my understanding is that someone eventually uh took that idea and they called it the violet wand. And then they were kind of shunned upon. So I so then they started using it only for the skin. and Um, and that and I don't know where it where it is right now, but the original technology definitely came from Nicola Tesla.

TalkToMeGuy : I used to years ago, I did whole life expos, which were health fairs, and I would wander one of the reasons I liked was selling, I was selling full spectrum lighting before people knew what that was. And I liked the events because you got to get together.

It was like a giant traveling family, and things every year I would do is listen to a lecture by Richard Coonan, the fountain of the San Francisco branch of ortho molecular medicine. And the other thing was find the booth with the people that had the violet wand. Because I thought it was a fascinating device.

It was a you know, probably about a foot and a half long, and it had And it had a glass tube on it that bent down to have a flat spot, and you'd pass it over the body, and it had a violet ray inside a gas inside that created a blue violet ray, and it made a crackling sound. Right. And one of the things I would notice about it is that as you passed it over your skin, and in general, you'd smell just the slightest essence of ozone.

That's right. One of the things that I used to think that it was doing is also helping driving ozone into the system, which at that time I was selling air purifiers for ozone, but I was also designing uh water purification systems, primary disinfectant was ozone. So I knew a lot about ozone.

Right. So I thought maybe that was the effect, but I I didn't know it actually had I I could never find anybody who talked to me technically about it. Like, what's it actually producing? What was it doing? But I thought it was a super cool looking device.

Dr Kate Keville: Yeah, well, ozone is kind of a side effect, a side factor, and it's nowhere enough ozone to any to make any difference, or to have somebody have a reaction to because there's a very small amount of ozone, but that's all apart creating uh a magnet. So what the shift is, and virtually what the violet wand was was just a um a high voltage magnet. Now the the violet wand, of course, I think it was like eight, nine, ten volts. The shift is 70,000 volt magnet, so it's much more powerful, right? And ozone is just a an uh a little side thing because it you can't create a magnet without without producing some sort of ozone. Right.

TalkToMeGuy : And you don't really want to be uh as much as I'm an advocate and have inhaled way too much ozone in my life, probably. Yeah, um you really don't want to be inhaling ozone because at some point it's so uh dehumecting, so drying to the tissue, it's gonna be irritation. It's a whole other thing. It's a whole other show we'll do someday uh where we talk about IV ozone. And I've done shows with maybe so. We've I've talked a lot about I like I say I'm very pro-ozone. I think it's yeah, we should be using more of it. Yes, for sure. What happened with the very first patient you ever tested the prototype on?

Dr Kate Keville: Oh gosh, I had recently retired, and um I had the first prototype, which was uh I wish I could show you anyway. Um, and I didn't I didn't know if it if it would work or not, I had no idea. And so I had a call from a patient, she had spent two weeks in the hospital, she had double pneumonia, and they did all kinds of things, and then said, you know what, we can't get your oxygen above 55. So we're gonna so uh we're gonna send you home with an oxygen tank, and uh please call hospice, you will be dead by Friday.

Wow. So of course she was very upset and crying, and she called me and she said, Dr. Kate, they're they're telling me to call hospice, and I'm driving home and uh and I just know you can help me.

I just know you can help me, but they're saying I'm gonna die by Friday. That was three years ago, and so I said, Well, why don't you come on over? And I I've got this thing.

Now I don't know if it's gonna work, but but I've got it, and let's just try it out. So she came over, and my son carried her into the house because she barely could walk, and she looked like she was gonna die any second. And uh I said, just liar on the couch, and I and I just started back then we were calling it a zapper, right? I just started you know moving the the original zapper all over her body, and all of a sudden she said, Oh my gosh, I can take a deep breath.

I haven't taken a deep deep breath in about three months, and I'm like, really? She goes, Yeah, keep going, keep going. So I probably spent maybe a total of 30 minutes on and off, on and off, on and off. And she uh skipped out carrying her oxygen tank, drove home. At the time she got home was which is maybe 15, 20 minute drive.

She put her oximeter on her finger, and her oxygen was up to 100. Wow. So that's my first initial like, what in the heck is this? You know, and so then after that, it was just it's just been an incredible um one story after the next. It's been very exciting. It's been uh it's been I've never been a manufacturer, so that's been an interesting experience. Um, you know, I've always been in kind of the or at least the past 30 years into the healing vector, so it's been a bit stressful, but um, but also very exciting.

TalkToMeGuy : Well, and that must be difficult because you have a vision of what you want the device to be, and then to get that into the hands of the nerds, and I mean that in the most loving and caring way.

Many of my friends are nerds, and I consider myself to be a nerd. So, but sometimes it gets lost in translation from the vision to the to, and especially something like this. I imagine it must be really hard to actually get to. I can't imagine how many prototypes and things that like no, that won't work, we have to do this. No, it can't overheat while a person's using it, you have to blah blah blah, just all the little things that have to be taken care of to get this out there. Must be luckily.

Dr Kate Keville: Luckily, I have a genius who's been making them for me. His name is Sean Maynard, and he's he's just we've been back and forth back and forth back. Okay, how about this? How about this? How about this? All right, try this one.

All right, let's try this one. So, luckily, I've had somebody that knows Tesla that knows uh electronics, he really is a genius, and and he's he's not even uh college trained, he's just very smart, and uh he's actually actually self-taught, he's self-taught, yeah, yeah, you know. But the biggest thing is just been trying to stay stay out of the way of the FDA and the CDC and the and the American and the AMA because what I started seeing studying blood under a microscope right off the bat was like was like, Oh, this breaks up blood clotting. Oh, this is increases oxygen. Oh, we're seeing mitochondria production after 30 seconds using it. Oh, we're seeing white blood cells being induced.

Are you kidding me? So once I started seeing that in live blood, I was like, holy cow, this is doing so much. But you start announcing that, and and you know, it's it's not too far down where your bank account is seized, and you could land yourself in jail. So yeah, so it's you know, it's uh it's interesting.

I I kind of wanted to um I'm I've been doing some more studying, so is it okay if I kind of Yes, please. give you all please uh in 1910, the Flexner report came out, and the Flexner report uh was very damaging to anything holistic, all the alternatives they just slammed. It was the Carnegie's and the Rockefellers put in a lot of money too because oil was discovered, and it was discovered that oil could make pharmaceutical drugs, and so uh what I've been discovering is when that flexner report came out, biophysics was shut down, and biochemistry was brought out to the world, not just the United States, the world. Well, what does that mean? What does that mean? Well, things like Nicola Tesla, things like rife, uh uh using frequencies, uh uh paying attention to the magnetic field of the human body, paying touchdowns the magnetic field of the earth, like everything it all went on the wayside, and we went into biochemistry. We went into biochemistry in farming. Do you know in the old days of farming? They used to grow vegetables together, like the the tomatoes would be with the cabbage and the cabbage would be at the spinach, and there was it was one big happy family, like sustainable agricultural and and and the chickens would be there, and the cows and and the horses, you know, and and using their their uh their excrement, their waste for fertilizer, and and we didn't have chemicals, we have chemicals to to uh to spray down so-called weeds because we really didn't have weeds.

Well, then after the flexner report came out, then all of a sudden the Rockefeller and the Carnegie said, Hey, we'll give you a plot of land if you fence it off and grow, but grow one plant, right? And then we deplete the soil, and then the soil's depleted. So now what we're gonna do fertilizer, what's fertilizer?

Chemicals. What else we've got to do? We got it now.

We got to use uh roundup, we got to use these chemicals. So in my point, uh the same thing with things like the shift, the same thing with uh with uh studying the biophysics of the human body that went by the wayside, and only as quacks we're allowed to talk about that. So biophysics would be would be muscle testing, biophysics would be acupuncture, biophysics would be the shift, right? That's so I kind of did some uh studying on on definitions.

So chemistry, the definition of chemistry is the study of matter, how substances interact with energy, so how substances physics is a study of matter and how matter interacts with each other. Now, when we look at today's world, what have we become? We have become, I'm gonna go to the doctor, I'm gonna get on a drug because that drug's gonna fix me instantly.

I'm on a fix quick fix. I don't have time to see who am I interacting with, what am I interacting with? What's what's in my field? How am I eating? What's in my water? What's in my soil, what kind of food is out there, right? We we don't we went to total biochemistry. Give me something to fix me.

All right, uh, biochemistry, study of chemical processes and substances that occur within living organisms, uh, combining biology and chemistry to study reactions, reactions. This is so phenomenal. So, what do we all do? We react. We got the TV, we got the we got we got the news, we've got drugs that we're reacting to, we've got drugs. Oh, I got a cold, I gotta take something.

Oh, I got an allergy, I gotta take my pseudofit, I gotta stop this reaction. Biophysics, the science that uses ideas, methods, and tools of physics to study how living things work in movement. So uh I hope this isn't too much, but this is just blew my mind at about three in the morning because I'm thinking about this show, and I'm thinking, how can I get across how important it is for our electromagnetic field to be uh uh uh optimal? Let's just say optimal. That field has to be the the smaller our field, the more sensitive we are. Oh, I'm an empath, oh, I'm really special, I'm powerful because I can feel things. No, you want to have a strong field, you want to have a field. You can go ahead and sense things in people, you can sense their upset, you can help them, but when your field gets weaker and weaker and weaker, then you're gonna take on everybody's stuff, whether it's emotional, physical, spiritual, it doesn't matter.

You're gonna take on chemical poisons easier, and then you have to go high. Oh, I can't be around cell phones, oh, I can't be around computers, oh, I can't. No, it's because your field is so weak. So we have to go back to physics and movement and our field and what's surrounding us, and and uh increase our our electromagnetic field, increase our field, not decrease it. Okay, so then we go.

So, what decrease increases it? Well, let's see. Uh, this political madness that we're in, uh, bad thoughts, anger, um, uh chemicalized food, chemicalized water, chemicalized air. Uh, let's see what what's the biggest thing right now, at least in my and what I can see right now is we have five million cell towers, we have 6.54 billion cell phones, we've got 1.9 billion 5G connections in the world, 1.9 billion. We've got 9,000 satellites, we've got 2 billion laptops and desktops, and we got 10 billion connected devices throughout the world. What does that mean? And it listen, anytime you want me to take a break, I can.

TalkToMeGuy : Well, let me let me just interject this thought. I I think of uh uh the cell phone itis, as I call it, and everybody feeling the need to be on their device at every given moment because they've we've created this cinematic tension of like I must know, I must know, I must know, versus hey, go for a walk in nature. Um I think of 5G as the glyphosate of the electronics world, it's much worse than that. Okay.

Dr Kate Keville: Um, so 5G puts out, and I look these figures are changing all the time. I've tried looking on Google, they give me a number. I try chat GPD, give me everybody's got a different number. And then what's interesting is I'll look it up one week and it'll be this number. I'll look it up the next week, and the number will have decreased. So I know I'm being, you know, algorithm. So anyway, let's just I'm just gonna toss out some numbers.

Y'all can research yourself. But 5G puts off anywhere between uh 10 million and 190 million gigahertz gigahertz. So you say, well, what's the significance of that? Well, a microwave oven puts off 734 gigahertz, microwave oven 734 gigahertz. So what does that do to food?

Well, it destroys it on a cellular level, it destroys water, destroys everything on a cellular level. So gigahertz is a microwave, 734. We're being exposed to 10 million to 190 million gigahertz from every 5G tower. Now, if you go around and go Google Google, chat GBT, they'll say, Yeah, but it's not ionizing, it's non-ionizing, so it's not harmful. Well, non-ionizing is not harmful because when you have your microwave, you run it for a few seconds and then it turns off. 5G never turns off ever. So that non-ionizing is still radiation that's hitting you 247. There's no way to get away from it.

Absolutely impossible to get away from it. Then on top of that, then we got cell phones. Cell phones put out anywhere between 100 and 150,000 kilohertz. Well, the human body, the human body resonates at the most optimal level between 10 and 30 kilohertz. So 10 and 30 kilohertz. That's every cell dancing, white blood cell production, new red blood, new red blood cell production, the body's happy, the body can stay healthy, it can take care of itself between 10 and 30 kilohertz. But we got 100 million to 190 million gigahertz coming at us, and then we got our cell phone that we're carrying in our pocket, and then we got computer systems, and everybody's got them, right? Yeah, so so we really don't have an option.

We have to cool down. The shit what the shift does is it brings every every cell in the body between 10 and 30 kilohertz. So it's just dropping it down. Now, in that, it's so interesting. It's taking me a long time to figure this out. When you bring each cell into resonance 10 to 30 kilohertz, the magnetic field expands because it's healthy. When you microwave the human magnetic field, it shrinks because it's being microwaved. Does that make sense? Yes.

TalkToMeGuy : Okay. I don't like it, But yes, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.

Dr Kate Keville: Now it's horrific bad news. And and you know, on top of that, then we got glyphosates and we got chemtrails, we got everything. So we just have to, you know, I used to tell my son, let's spend five minutes on the problem the rest of our lives on a solution. AI is not gonna go anywhere. We're we want we love our phones, we love our phones. We can connect, we love our computers, we love chat GPT, we can do a lot with it. So we just have to to design, we have to create technology that will help us. That's all. And the more that we do that, the better off we'll be.

And instead of just being angry and going, oh, I'm being microwaved, oh, I'm being fried. We want to all come together and create technology that will help us, and it's being done. It's being done. Um, of course, I of course I might be biased, but I don't think so. But I I'm I'm 99.9% certain that the shift's one of the greatest things um ever created because uh nobody else has done it yet. And and we can bring each cell between 10 and 30 kilohertz. There's other stuff out there, but it's not quite strong enough. Uh, and I've experimented with them all.

TalkToMeGuy : So one of the great things about the shift is that you can you know, throw it in your bag. I mean, if you were gonna go on vacation, you could throw it in your bag and have it with you, or you could, you know, it's not a giant device that needs to be plugged into a power source, it's recharging right.

Dr Kate Keville: Yeah, I I I actually made it so that you could carry it, you could take it home, you could use it at home, the kids can use it, use it on your dogs, cats. I've got a farmer up in Michigan that uh uses on his cows, goats, chickens. He brought two of his chickens back to life using it. Um, so yeah, I made it for I made it to create independency. Like I didn't want it to be in some practitioner's office where they're gonna charge you 60 bucks to shift you, and then you can only do it once a month. This needs to be done three to four times a day. Yeah. Because our exposure is so great. Yeah. So that's that's why I made it for take home handheld.

TalkToMeGuy : And it's really easy to use.

Dr Kate Keville: It's very easy.

TalkToMeGuy : It's not right. That part is not rocket science. It is very easy to use. And you know, once you get that pattern going. Yes, yeah. It's just so easy to use. I want to jump slightly. We're still in the same category. Okay. Somewhere along the way, I heard you talk about, or you you mentioned that the body normally takes 90 days to produce new red blood cells. Yes.

Dr Kate Keville: That's but you saw it happen in 30 seconds using the shift. Would you please talk about that? Yes.

Dr Kate Keville: In the beginning, you know, I I of course I had the patient that her her uh her oxygen went from 55 to 100, and she's still alive three days later, but I still didn't know. I'm like, what the heck? Then I was muscle testing, and I'm and I'm muscle testing people with all these weaknesses, and then I'm shifting them.

I'm and I'm and their muscle tests are going like stronger than five Mac Daddy trucks couldn't pull their arm away. And I'm like, what do I have in my hands? So I decided to go a little bit somewhat uh uh scientific, and I found a doctor that does live cell microscopy. So I probably put I don't know, two, three hundred people put their blood under a microscope, looked at their blood, then shifted them. Shifting only takes 30 seconds, 60 seconds if you if you do it two or three times, and then we put their blood under a microscope.

We wait 15 minutes to let the blood circulate, and we put their blood under the microscope, and we saw new red blood cell production. And so Dr. Jean, this doctor that does the live blood cell, she goes, uh, this is impossible. And I was like, What? She goes, It takes 90 days to produce new red blood cells. This person just produced new red blood cells after you shifting her for 30 seconds. I'm like, what?

So then we started documenting all that. Yeah, I mean, it's it's um, but you don't close back, like, see we don't know. Okay, Dr. Gene's been doing live cell microscopy for 40 some years.

Live live cell microscopy didn't even come about. I don't know when. Well, I'll have to look that up. So we didn't know what our blood looked like. Do we know what our blood looked like in the Christ days? Do we know what our blood looked like before 1910, before the Flexner report?

No, we don't. But my guess is that without all of this crazy exposure, I bet people's blood looked different. I bet it was dancing.

I bet it was producing new red blood cells. Like there are things we don't know. When did we lose our field? I mean, if you look at, you know, the the uh spiritual pictures of the Christ picture or the holy ones, they all have this halo around them. Why don't we have a halo? What happened to our halo?

Yeah. Well, when we shift blood, when we shift the person and then put their blood under the microscope, it has halo around it. It has a halo.

That's the first thing we noticed. Now, Dr. Jean, even though she's had 40 some years' experience, I'm like, well, what is it? She goes, I have no idea, I've never seen it before. So now it's a normal. Now she's like, Oh, I could tell they did they they don't have a shift, they're not glowing.

TalkToMeGuy : So does that mean does that also in in an other in another language? Well, actually, let me jump to this and then I'll ask my other question, my secondary question. So back to the whole life expos. At the whole life expos, they always had the booth with the Carillion photography.

Yeah. People would go and have their picture taken, and then you'd have an auric field. You'd have a Polaroid, which is a whole other conversation. Uh you'd have a Polaroid with the auric field in it, and you'd see colors, and then they'd have a psychic there who would read it. Now, setting aside the psychic. I'm not opposed to psychics, but they was were not always so great. Um but you'd see your auric field. Have you done uh Carelian work where you've had somebody just wandering around and you use the shift on them and then have a post photograph taken of their what their auric field is?

Dr Kate Keville: I I have uh I met a guy in Columbus, Ohio at an event. Now he had his wasn't exactly Corelian, but it belongs the same lines. He said his was an upgrade, and he had gotten it from I think Russia. And he took he didn't do any kind of readings, he just took their picture. It kind of showed them what their field meant as far as colors go.

Uh huh. So I I saw him and I asked him if he would um take some pictures before and after the shift, and he was very excited. Yes, I'll do it.

He said, but let me take your picture first. How long have you been using this device? I said, Oh, maybe a couple years by now. So he took my picture, and then he looks at it and he goes, Okay, you and I need to sit down.

I've never seen anything like this before. I said, Oh, is it bad? He said, bad. He said, You have the auric field of the Christ, the Buddha, all the holy ones. I'm like, what? And so he pointed it out, and now we did take pictures of other people. Their field definitely changed. It didn't, it didn't uh it didn't look like my field, but you know, I'd been using the shift for two years, but that's what got me thinking about the field and how we all need one, and how most of the people the pictures that this guy was taking, you know, they had black and gray and blue and red, and then the shift would change it.

The shift would change the darker colors into lighter colors. So he bought two that day. He was very impressed. He said he had he said he had used many, many, many different different technologies and done experiments taking the picture before and after, and he'd never seen anything like the shift as far as how quickly the person's field changed. That's amazing. I'll have to I'll have to send you um the picture, Richard. It's pretty uh it's pretty striking.

TalkToMeGuy : I bet uh I have somebody in chat who's asking a question about what is the difference between the green shift device, the previous model, and the blue shift device, the current model.

Dr Kate Keville: That's a great question. So um first so the first we had the original little prototype. Then I went to a bigger model called Wipeout. Uh it's red, white, and blue with uh a uh a lightning bolt on the front of it, and I made it for the children. I want to go Superman like because so many children are suffering these days, and and and another reason why is at the elementary school here in Spartanburg, they put a 5G tower in, and all the kids it is normal now for the parents when they drive to pick up the kids at the elementary school to bring a box of Kleenexes because they all have nosebleeds. So I made the wipe out for the children, and then I had a little dance with uh the three-letter organization, and I had to change the name because they wanted to know what I was wiping out, and uh so I I changed to the shift, and I decided all right, let me go army green.

Um, because maybe the preppers, you know, preppers get this stuff. I'm gonna go Airman Green and and then green also it's sage, so it's healing, and I had to change the symbol, I had to change the name, everything, and I had to go all energy, like I can't talk about health at all, nothing about healing. And so I decided to make it smaller because people were complaining about how big the wipeout was, so we made it smaller. Well, then we started having some failures, and so we went rewent back in and we redesigned, we put another hole in the back, we put some air holes in, we got some more life about out of it, but we were we're still having some failures. So then I moved on to the blue shift, and so that's the original size of the wipeout. I put two air holes in the back.

We got an air hole in the front, and we have a relay switch, and this one is by far um exceeded our expectations. There is no difference in the field that it puts out. There is no difference in the wave, there's no difference in it. Uh uh creating 10 to 30 kilohertz.

They all do that, all of them. Um, it's all been about how can I stop it breaking down? I think we had in the beginning, we had about a 62% % return rate. Cost me a lot of money, and it cost Sean a lot of headaches. We were constantly fixing, fixing, fixing, fixing, fixing. So we're 99% sure we're there, and we've improved the green one uh to the point where that's also lasting for the old ones, you know. We can we've done things where where those will last two, those are the longevity of them. So I know that's a long answer to your story, but it's it has been a quite a journey because no one's ever done this before. And so we're playing with high voltage and high frequency and a magnetic field that's that that extends out three feet, and uh, how do we not get it to to uh to fry, you know? So yeah, there's that.

TalkToMeGuy : There's that high voltage, you're handing people a high voltage stick. I mean, it's right, but it makes a sound, it makes it that sparkling sound.

Dr Kate Keville: Yeah, the electricity does that spark. And so it's exciting the first time you hand it to somebody, and or that I've handed somebody mine and said, you know, just push the button and hold them there. And the first time they do it, they're like, wow, what am I doing? It's like just relax, but uh trust me.

Dr Kate Keville: Yeah, oh, the body craves it. Yeah, the body people say tell me they go, Listen, my shift's broken. Can you like send me another one or something? I'll just buy another one. I'll just buy another one. I don't want to deal without it. I'm like, cool. We haven't had, I think I've had one person return it, but she just didn't understand.

TalkToMeGuy : I used it on a sick cat, and the hardest part was getting the cat to not freak out because of the sound. I know once the cat got the feeling he was totally into it. Like, oh yeah, well, yeah, that yeah, there's this spot. Yeah, you know, I mean, totally into it.

Dr Kate Keville: The bigger dogs and horses and cows, they come running for it. Yeah, the little guys are like, I don't know, you know, which I imagine their ears are pretty sensitive, but yeah, and and for little guys, like with my dogs, I just stand a couple feet away and shift myself, and they get it, they'll sit there because that field reaches out three feet, yeah. So they're happy or more.

TalkToMeGuy : Well, I'll try that with a cat when he's laying on the floor. I'll just wand it over him and he'll look at me like, oh, you Yeah. know, and so that I was gonna ask about the equine industry. Uh I had a um interestingly enough, another chiropractor who got involved in PEMF devices, and one of the devices that she used, she had a whole branch off into dealing with the equine world because a friend of hers was I don't know anything about horses, a professional shower breeder, something one of those of horses, yeah. Sure, and they'd had good results with PMF, and I just think this makes even more sense because it you don't have you don't have pads, you don't have to plug it in, just the hassle of what you need to do with PMF devices, and they have to stay on it for a long time because it's such low voltage to be able to have use this on a horse. Once the horse got past the sound, it just seems to make so much sense to me.

Dr Kate Keville: They usually come running for it. Um, yeah, well, PMF is pulsed and the shift is static. So we're like, we go we get in and out, we get in and out, you get in and out, yeah. So we're vulture, we're we're really just you know uh bringing those cells 10 to 30 kilohertz and then expanding the field, and then okay, do it again a couple more times today. Uh yeah, PEMF, you kind of got to sit there, and it's a different voltage. We we have the highest voltage for sure. Um, and it's a different uh um, you know, PEMF and rife and uh uh gosh, uh uh one in a hundred different uh biome reading machines are there to heal to heal a certain symptom, right? To um bring down inflammation, the shift is more let me just get your body to 10 to 30 kilohertz, let me get every cell to 10 to 30 kilohertz, and let's see what your body will do now. So you bring the body into your chat of practical philosophy, really. If you bring the body into a state of balance, the body will heal itself. So let's do that. So once the cells are between 10 and 30 kilohertz, and you use a rife machine, or you use PEMF, or you use uh acupuncture, you get better and better results because you have a body that's not being microwaved, and in such a high state of inflammation that yeah, good luck, right? Good luck. Like rife didn't have 5G and and uh and cell phones and computers back in the day, right?

Dr Kate Keville: So yeah, so that so really the the shift isn't about healing anything, it's about the body healing itself. It the shift will allow you, no matter what modality you use, it will allow your body to really benefit from it in a shorter amount of time instead of taking forever forever long time. Well, for months, yeah, you know what I mean.

TalkToMeGuy : Yeah, no, I know, but I mean it's a long time sometimes when you know it is a long time, you know. When you see acupunctures the first time, well, you'll see me once every two weeks for you know the next year, and it's like what Right, right, I mean.

Speaker 4: I like acupuncture, I'm a fan of acupuncture. I say nothing bad about acupuncture, however, it's just the time the fact that I come home after a day of being on whatever sometimes somebody else's studio, My studio is pretty EMF protected. And I have no Wi-Fi devices in my studio where I'm working

now. It's all hardware now. So there is no wandering badness. And it makes such a difference when I'm working in somebody else's studio where they have everything wireless. It's like I come back confused. Literally confused. Oh, yeah, without a doubt. Without a doubt.

Dr Kate Keville: Well, my house, I have a red brick house, and red brick actually helps um negate EMF and 5G.

Speaker 4: I didn't really didn't realize that until recently. But anyway, I so I only have three or four signals 24-7 at on my in my home. And I'm in a neighborhood. And I went to New York, and I it took it took me a week, almost two weeks to recover from that trip. Yeah. And I even had a shift with me. Yeah. But I mean, that was a lot of exposure that I guess my my body's not used to, my brain, or or

Dr Kate Keville: I think maybe everybody there, they're so used to it that a fog is normal. Yeah.

TalkToMeGuy : Don't feel foggy. You will by the time you get home on the subway, you know, watching a movie on your phone. I know. In a moving tube. I it's not my word. I know. It's not my

work. Um, I know. We have talked about this uh backstage, but I really want to address this because it seems to be such a thing happening, it seems to have kind of exploded. Just a lot of people are talking to me about parasites, andasites or you know, systemic parasites, or just there's a lot of parasite stuff happening, and one of my theories about why is well, the the bottom line, the answer will be they should be using the shift device multiple times a day. I I think that there's some I think that the parasites are opportunistic, and that there's some energy they feel amongst I'll say empaths as a target point just because they're a group, but you know, sensitive people that maybe they're the target, there's some kind of vibe they get off of that, or um, you know, I my thing I've I've always said as you given the opportunity the body will heal itself, and everything I've ever done, either as an herbalist or as a radiotics practitioner, or is any number of kinds of things that I've done. That's always my goal. I believe that given you know, give the body good stuff and it will know what to do with it and get better and

stronger. So I so I feel like the the parasite people want to have stronger immune systems, so they're not a good reception place for parasites. I have a question. I I know you have comment, but I have no question. Okay, you have a question, or you want me to no no no, no, I want you to talk about it, please.

Speaker 4: I um I really think it's impossible to have a strong immune system living in today's world of a hundred and ninety thousand gigahertz and a hundred and ninety thousand kilohertz. Like, I I I don't see how that's possible. Um then you're talking about glyphosate in the soil and the chemtrails, and then and then there's a whole nother ball wax um on the on the National Institute of Health website, which you'll it's gonna take you a while to dig it out, but it's on there. There are 144 patents for nano technology pathogens. So not only were parasites back were a problem or have been an issue that people were concerned about, but now they have nanotech attached to them, so you have to turn that nano off, or you're not gonna get rid of parasites. Now, um the other thing about it too is you know, the land of algorithms, the land of computers, the land of chat B T chat GBT, the land of you know, we have so much information, and uh for a while it was limes, maybe it's still limes, then it was parasites. Now everybody's like, Oh, I gotta do a parasite cleanse. And the bottom line is we have we have become horrifically imbalanced, and so we just want to bring balance back into a life. Parasites are absolutely necessary, like people think ew

parasites. I don't want those. Well, the human body is made up of viruses, bacteria, uh, funguses. Look at fungi. People are taking mushroom, reefy and all these wonderful mushrooms to improve their health. Fungi is everywhere. You know, fungi are the roots of trees, they're the communication system of the trees. Uh parasites. So our bodies, we're just a living microorganisms. So we certainly don't want to kill everybody

off. Uh we we have to get back to a state of balance. So let's say if you if you do a parasite cleanse and you kill all those bad parasites, kill all those worms off. Who's gonna eat up the candida? Who's gonna uh keep the viruses in check? Who's gonna keep the bacteria in

check? Because everybody's got its own job. So again, let's go back to the flexner report and let's look at biochemistry versus biophysics. So biochemistry, kill the parasites,

biophysics. How can I create my multi multi uh uh uh domain physical domain here that is nothing but microorganisms? How can I bring it into a state of balance so that everybody's happy and everybody keeps in itself in check? The viruses keep the bacteria in check, the parasites keep the the yeast in check, the yeast keeps the fungus, you know what I mean? Like it's all it's all we're all um we're all a

system. Our bodies are our are sustainable living systems too, like farms, like sustainable farms. So to give you an example, uh Richard, you and I talked about this. So I think it was in Colorado where there were too many wolves, and so they're wolves are eating certain animals. So what do they do? They kill a bunch of wolves, and then they take the wolves out of there. Well, now they don't have any

wolves. Well, guess what? Then the elk multiplied, and then when the elk multiplied, then there was a shortage of some other type of animals. So the ecosystem became imbalanced. So then what'd they do? They said, Oh, I think we're gonna have to bring back the wolves. They bring back the wolves, everything comes into balance. So I understand people's concern about oh, I gotta kill the parasites, but just just take a different

look. And sometimes you can just add trace minerals to your diet, and all of the organs and glands start functioning, your autoimmune starts system starts functioning, and it starts taking care of itself. Um, you know, of course, the shift. I mean, I I we have to turn off the nanobots, uh, and and and and and uh bring our cells to 10 to 30 killer it's 10 to 30 kilohertz. What does the cell

do? It's optimal, it starts sending messages to all the organs and glands. Hey, I'm feeling good right now. How are you guys doing? Hey, listen, let's bring everything into an organized balanced state. Is that a I think I just talked way too long on that, but does that make sense?

TalkToMeGuy : Uh no, you didn't. That was the perfect amount of talking, and you ended up exactly uh where my thinking lands with the bringing the you know, given the opportunity, which I think the shift is really a keystone in that. Given the opportunity, the body will heal itself. Yes, and I think if we can bring everything back into balance, get uh bring in a esoteric term, qi, bring our balance, you know, develop our chi, our own inner chi, not depending upon somebody else for our chi, it's our chi, right? Good and bring our chi back, then everything else will fall into place, like the wolves. They brought the wolves back, and you know, suddenly there wasn't a rodent problem, there wasn't an elk problem. There wasn't, you know, they they took a keystone species out of that location that had been part of that system for thousands of years because we're idiots because humans are

idiots. That's why I know I know. nobody looked at the system and thought, no, no, let's just kill all those, and that'll be fine. We just killed them, and it's all fine

now. And oh no, we need the wolves, and I think that's what we need is we need to really be supporting the qi in the body, and got our own inner state, our own inner furnace operating as optimally as possible in this toxic load world, right?

Speaker 4: Yeah, it is it's different. But you know, it is. I mean, we have so many poisons. I mean, there's a lot, but but I know we can do it little by little, you know. We're all coming up with uh with uh creations, but you know, um just kind of pay attention out there, you know, when you're out there listening to you get on the algorithm of parasites, so do your parasite cleanses and see uh-oh, now I have candida. Darn, now I gotta do a candida diet. Then you do the candida diet, then oh, yeah. Well, the limes is out now. I didn't know I had limes, but now Limes is out. So that you know, that's what so then the next thing you know, you're spending thousands of dollars visiting these holistic doctors, and God bless the holistic

doctors. I am not against this at all. I I am holistic doctor, but I just I I see it's this constant battle. Well, now you're in a Herc Simmers, a detox. Now you're gonna have to do this, and you know, it's like

now. Wait a minute here. How about if we just start simply get the body back to a state of balance, start with some trace minerals because we're so mineral deficient and see what happens to that. Yeah, keep it simple, just keep it simple.

TalkToMeGuy : I'm a I'm a bit I've been a fan forever of trace minerals. I've always made sense to me that what you know, there's no harm. Well, I'll I'll definitely this will be shark jumping here. That uh having grown up near the Salinas Valley and having been as a child dusted fairly regularly with DDT because I'm of that vintage driving you know, you know, sticking my head out of the car, driving up highway one to see my grandparents, yeah, and you know, the crop dusters would be flying across highway one to crock dust fields, and I'm of the vintage when it would have been DDT, right? So I have that in my cinematic brain, but on the other hand, I I watched and saw the result of, and I was shocked the first time I realized what this was. They would free why I believe they still do this, although they've made it black plastic now. They used to use a clear plaque plastic or a clear plastic to make rows on on hillsides, like a whole giant area would be covered with plastic rows, though. And then what I figured out later was that they would then inject methyl bromide into those areas to gas the soil to kill everything in the soil. Now there's they have science, they have science-y words and they have a bunch of BS about why they do it, but they do that because their plants are so this was for strawberries, their plants are so immunosuppressed that they can't defend any themselves from anything, they can't have an earwig, they can't have any natural thing attack them because they've been so hybridized to be the perfect looking strawberry on the plate, and I'm intentionally working on strawberries because that's what I saw do it. And so I think the same thing for us that I've been I lived in a world of I didn't live, I lived on the Monterey Peninsula, so I wasn't well. I was in the heart of produce world, and so I think that if we stop doing that, that would be tremendously beneficial to everybody should operate from the place of vitality and immune system. It will support itself.

Speaker 4: Yes. Well, look, I mean, we're not that far off from what they did to the strawberries. I mean, look at we've got Botox because we want to look younger, we've got makeup because we certainly are not going to be uh I hope I don't offend anyone, but I mean, we certainly want don't want people to see our real

self. So we're gonna make makeup lipsticking, and then and then we I mean, a million of one things, right? A million of one things to not support our body in health, and then run to the doctor for that quick fix drug. So a lot of it's the same thing, like our bodies can't the people can't even sustain when pollen comes out anymore. Or you know what I mean? I mean, yeah, oh, I got out, yeah. Oh, I got bad allergies.

TalkToMeGuy : Bad allergies, yeah. It's allergy season. Oh, it's you know, it's allergy season. There's a season for that. Wow, right, yeah. We acknowledge it, like it's a thing. It's a Tuesday, oh, it's allergy season, right? Really, yeah.

Speaker 4: So we're missing the wolf, right? We're missing let's get back, let's just do our best to stay as balanced as possible. Maybe we need vitamins for that, you know. I whatever, everybody's so different, whatever you need. But if you try to be killing stuff in your body, what we've been doing that since 1910, and it hasn't

worked. Uh uh, what is it? Say no to drugs. Uh, but there's a drugstore on every corner. Uh, the war against cancer, the war against good uh drugs. Oh, now we're in war against

diabetes. Oh, great. Now we have uh dialysis machines on every corner because everybody's in kidney failure. I mean, really, like what's going on, and and what I find, and listen, I am not complaining, but I'm finding that the holistic world is also have become a bit medical because they're treating symptoms using herbs, using herbs and using vitamins and using this, but they're still treating symptoms where okay, let's go back. Let's just first start, let's get the body in a state of

balance. Let's see if we can do that first, and then let's see where your symptoms are, and then let's see possibly possibly what you need. You know what I mean? Yeah. Let's start it.

TalkToMeGuy : Let's start it working with the body. Let's find a good chiropractor, osteopathic physician to go really old school.

Speaker 4: Right. Right.

TalkToMeGuy : Um, I'm at we're jumping slightly here because we're moving. I I can't believe we're rounding the bend on time. On uh with the shift device. I I don't like this phrase, but I wrote it down, so I'm gonna use it. What's the right way to use the device day to day? Is there such a thing as using it too much? I know there's definitely a thing of using it not enough. Yeah, they had my own experience. It's a great question.

Speaker 4: Uh, I've had I've I've heard everything out there. All right, so um, I had a woman who was doing chemotherapy. She had, I think she had the original wipeout. She um decided it was gonna be a great idea after she got her chemo that morning to really shift that port, and she fried the wipeout in less than five seconds, blew out the power module.

Wow. I've had people that live in Portland, Oregon. Uh, and they have fried a three or uh probably four or five power modules. I've had people who are on pharmaceutical drugs, and they have blown out power

modules. So I had to come back to the drawing board. Now we've got a relay switch in there, but what we're finding is this nanobots, they're they're they're actually they never used to be this powerful, but they're making them stronger, they're making them so they turn back on after I turn them off, and they're also making them so they self-replicate. Um, every pharmaceutical drug has nanotechnology in it, every one of them. So people say, Well, I'm only taking a statin, it doesn't matter, it's there. So, what I tell people is you can use it as many times as you want per

day. But for anybody on pharmaceutical drugs, hold it an arm's length out for at least the first two weeks. So that because these things are in clusters in the body, like people don't understand nano nanotechnology, they think oh, it's just one, but they're nano, so there's like there's like a hundred thousand just in one little cluster. Um, so that uh, but I mean, I I've had I think three or four cases of stage four cancer where the people used it and they use it 10 times a day. Um, I I don't it's it's not a healing device. So when people ask me how many times a day do I need to use it for

arthritis? I'm like, you know, I don't know, it's up to you. Uh I say three to four times a day is really optimal, depending on your exposure. You know, if you if you work in a workplace where you've got like a thousand computers and stuff, I would definitely hold it out because you're gonna have a lot of nanotechnology and a lot of uh your field's gonna be really low, and so if you if you start it on your body and using it 10 times a day right away, it might be a bit of a jolt, not in a bad way. I've had people do that, but I'm just saying, like just start out, hold it, you know, an arm's length out and use

it. How's that feel? Um because everybody's so different, you know. I can use it four times a day, sometimes you use it ten times a day. It depends on what what do I have going on? I had a some people visit, and they were all jacked up, so I used it a lot more after they left. Yeah, yes, uh, but uh of course you can use anything too much, but there's not enough time in the day for you to use the shift too much,

right? I mean, um if you if you use it like a couple hundred times a day, you're probably gonna fry the power module, it's not gonna hold up to that. Right, right. There's that.

TalkToMeGuy : And what about people? Uh, I this comes to mind because I have a friend who just had uh something and put in his body. What about people with battery operated medical devices in their body, whether it be a pacemaker or other things that are controlling you know some device that causes their kidney to squirt, or you know, that's trenting so much now. Do we do they have to be cautious using the device?

Dr Kate Keville: Yeah, great question. Um, anything battery operated, you do want don't want to do it. If you hold the shift up to now, the battery the the shift is not a taser, it is the exact opposite, but it does put out a high voltage magnet and a high voltage magnet will kill your cell phone, it will turn off any battery. So if you have a pacemaker or an insulin pump or pain pump somewhere, you don't want to use it at all.

Speaker 4: Um, you know, you just don't want to take a chance. If you use it, somebody with a pacemaker and their battery goes dead, they're gonna have to go to the hospital and have surgery. You don't want that. So anything battery

operated. I'll give you a good good uh example. My car has a key fob, it's battery operated, and for a long time I was forgetting my that my keys were in my pocket, and I would shift myself. I've gone through two cases of fob batteries because it kills that battery every time.

TalkToMeGuy : So we know that it kills your fob battery. I will not have my have my FOB battery. We know it does. It's pain in the yeah, yeah.

Dr Kate Keville: Sean and I have experimented. We it did um kill his wife's phone, it didn't kill his phone, but it will weaken the circuit board, so you just don't want to you don't want to shift your phone, you don't want to shift anything battery after anything else, is fine. Like people have asked me, you know, they have hip implants, fine. Anything metallic, fine, just nothing with a battery. Yeah, okay.

TalkToMeGuy : I just had to ask because I said I had someone recently who had a pacemaker put in, and it was an extra procedure, and it was like, oh my god, they're doing that that way now. That's mind blowing.

Dr Kate Keville: I know, and it's too bad because I had a patient who had a genetically malformed uh mitro valve,

Speaker 4: and I think it was her eighth month using the shift. She grew a new micro valve. Wow, yeah, she's got documentation, it's the only thing she did was a shift. Wow, but you see, you see the human body, yeah. When you bring it to optimal where you bring those cells to resonate, and you and you extend that field, it's like what can't it do? Yeah, that's my question. What can't it do? Yeah, I just can't, I just can't talk about it.

TalkToMeGuy : Yeah, you know, have to we have to turn off the microphones, then we can talk about it, but not while we're doing it.

Dr Kate Keville: Well, I can't, you know, I just can't put claims out there and go marketing and average, you know. It's uh I talk about it because I like to talk about, and these are what people other people are telling me. I'm not making it up, yeah. So that's amazing.

TalkToMeGuy : Um, okay. I know it's blown my mind.

Dr Kate Keville: I know, I know, me too.

TalkToMeGuy : And now we're we're at the time. I'm surprised we got here this quickly. Where can people find out more? I put it in the chat, but for the listeners, where can people find the shift device and more about do you still take private clients? Or are you so busy?

Dr Kate Keville: That's I do not know. I mean, I have I do here and there, but no, yeah. I I gone, yeah.

TalkToMeGuy : Uh, but where can people find the shift device and more? Actually, talk about your blog as your substack because that's so good.

Dr Kate Keville : Substack. My substack?

TalkToMeGuy : Oh, not your substack. Forget that. Wrong wrong question. Um but you know, you do writing on your own website. Where is that connected to the shift? Oh, yeah.

Dr Kate Keville: Uh, well, the shiftdevice.com is for the shift, and um, I have a resource page, which is all for legal reasons, interestingly enough. So I've got a lot of great articles and videos on there on the resource page, and then I talk about the shift kind of what you

heard. Well, actually, I went a lot deeper today with it, but on the website, you you can read about it. Um, I really can't go into great detail because I get myself in trouble,

Dr Kate Keville: but uh yeah, the the shift device.com, and then um I have an online store, Dr. Kate's best, where I just have some products that I've designed myself that have helped people, and um, most of the stuff I think I've got three or four podcasts that are on the shiftdevice.com.

TalkToMeGuy : Okay, and I will also post this show will be published tomorrow morning at dawn, literally. And then uh I'll also put in the show notes the last show the most but it was a couple I was surprised to find it was a couple years ago. I know time's fine. Time is flying, isn't it? Wow, yeah.

Dr Kate Keville: I don't I'll tell you what I remembered. Uh my mother died the morning. I was supposed to be on your show. Oh, that's right. Remember? Yes, yeah, yeah. I I recalled that this morning, yeah. So yeah, it's been a while. Been a while. Wow. Okay.

TalkToMeGuy : That was an adventure as I knew it would be. That was great.

Dr Kate Keville: Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Richard. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Appreciate you all.

TalkToMeGuy : , All right, everybody, have a great rest of the week, and we'll see you next week.

Dr Kate Keville: Bye-bye. I know.