Balancing Biological Energy Systems w/ Biogeometry

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TalkToMeGuy : With that, the youngest of the Karim children, Doreya Karim, grew up with biogeometry energy systems limited where she had numerous biogeometry projects and is a vital player of the biogeometry research and development team which aimed to reduce all forms of environmental stress on biological systems. Doreya has been working directly under Dr. Ibrahim Karim for more than nine years and has had the opportunity to gain experience in applying biogeometry fields such as regional environmental electro smog solutions, architecture and industrial design, music, animal farming and agriculture and serves as co-director of the design department. Doreya is a building biology environmental consultant with degrees in both psychology and graphic design. Doreya has collected and taught in over eight countries having given over 40 biogeometry trainings in 2018. Doreya was selected as a she's Mercedes recognizing empowering women in Egypt. Doreya Karim joins us to talk about balancing biological energy systems with biogeometry. Welcome Doreya . Thank you. Thank you for having me.

TalkToMeGuy: I have to ask, I didn't mean to, but she's Mercedes. Is this like Mercedes the car or Mercedes was somebody famous?

Doreya Karim : The car. The car is actually a really interesting, I think it's a really great story if anybody wants to look it up. I don't know the story by hand but it really is one of the empowering stories for women where it was actually the wife of, I forget who the inventor is, but she's the one who actually drove the car for the first, for the, I don't want to read the exact story, but she's the one who actually drove the car across the town or where it was at the time when everybody kind of thought you couldn't. So the Mercedes award came out where they would highlight different women and their roles. So I was really happy to have a student who attended the class, you know, to think of me for one year. With one of the events.

TalkToMeGuy : That's very cool. I'll look that up. That's a great story. Because I've talked to you a number of times, I'll put links for the shows that we've done previously and also the show that we did, I believe with you and your father, Ibrahim. And I'll put those in the show notes. So we're going to jump in where people have a certain amount of knowledge of biogeometry. There will be questions that will clarify for people.

But I want to start here. I want to ask about, there was a quote I found on one of the pages on your very robust biogeometry website. Right now, no, there's a translation tab, which is really helpful. I didn't know I couldn't find it. The question is having to do with results from experiments in the National Research Center in Egypt using bacteria and other research on poultry and plants than at universities in Egypt and Holland, were auto suggestion known as placebo effect has no place. I'm shown in the evidence of this. Would you please talk about this in reference to the biogeometry poultry project, because it's such a smashing success. And I think it's a great example of that exactly that. I really want people to understand that it's not a placebo effect. Yeah.

Doreya Karim : And I think actually where this comes from, and I'll jump to the taken project, but there is actually a TED talk my father gave, and it's called, Why is the Cow Smiling? And I actually goes back to, and then again, for those listening who have heard the other shows, I want to go back to the other shows, kind of a long story short, where we went into two towns in Switzerland and installed biogeometry shapes, and where people were having headaches and different headaches, issues of sleep, tension, anxiety, after the installation of a cell tower, after the bi-geometry solution, that all went away through an independent study. And then of course, when it was time to publicize this, people said placebo effect. And so the TED talk was called Why is the Cow Smiling? Because when I think another Porter came in and said, you know, placebo effect, a woman from the town stood up and said, there are cows on the Arabic.

And that was referring to that there was high rates of miscarriages and other ecological and animal issues that they were facing that was restored with the use of bi-geometry. So a lot of times we will actually use animal studies where we use animal studies, we will highlight that there is no placebo effect in the areas where we work, because the people feel the difference, but at the end of the day, we also see the effect on the animal. Now, the animal farming study is actually, it was actually, I would say, the second there was an Egypt study, and it's in a published journal, done with poultry, raising poultry naturally.

And no one was really studying the growth rate. But in Quebec, we repeated that for, if you look at the website, there's actually a letter saying, you know, at the end of nine cycles, we have a solution bi-geometry is now a solution to raise chickens without antibiotics. Now, where that was coming from is that when we first went in, they said, you know, you need to be able to raise chickens for three cycles without antibiotics in order for us to consider a viable solution.

And we said, okay, great, let's do that. And then, and that was set up where we had, within the same farm, it was divided into, within the same bi-geometry, we had a control farm outside, and then within the same farm, it was divided into chickens receiving antibiotics, not receiving antibiotics separated into different quadrants, and then we could compare the results of how well they're doing. And then slowly, we started to expand with a more farm. And then you can see that they kept us going in the initial farm for, when we reached three cycles, they said, let's go for another three.

And we reached another three, they said, let's go for another three. And then when we reached nine cycles, then they said, okay, so we now see that we have a definitive solution to raise chickens without antibiotics. And they actually gave us the rest of the farms that they own for us to apply bi-geometry solutions to. So now, all of the farms owned by that company are producing, they're producing antibiotic-free chickens.

TalkToMeGuy : Wow. We were just talking backstage, and I think I have to jump to this, that I think that's also such a shining example of the idea of what I will call the shape form or the science energy of shapes about geometry is really about, and the chickens, why are those chickens smiling?

I don't know, can the chickens smile? Is that you are not here to, or it's not here to fix something, it's here to make us so centered and until California together, we're strong enough to be in an environment which might have pollution and still be okay. So that, is that a okay way of expressing that?

Doreya Karim : Yeah, I think, I mean, the aspect for it is there's always going to be types of environmental stressors. And I think one of the key things of bi-geometry is we're saying that it is very difficult to live a centered life if you do not have a way to access the multidimensional energy exchange levels of the human being. And those include mental levels, emotional levels, vital levels, and really that's the key of bi-geometry. So those who have studied bi-geometry, they see that at the beginning when my father was first developing bi-geometry, there was a groundwork there that in French reticillia that dealt with really just being able to classify energy effects according to different color qualities.

And of course a lot more than that as well. But with that, the path that bi-geometry took was, my father was an architect, and I actually think that this was a key point because it had to come from an architect. It couldn't come from somebody who was actually focused on healing the body. So as an architect, he approached the energy world by looking at sacred power spots. And of course in an Egyptian architect, I should add that. And sacred power spots, and really for him, that was the key. When he inherited a lot of this work and was told that he will be able to bring it out in a way that he needed, he knew that the key for him was to recreate the energy of the sacred power spot. To understand why in a sacred power spot, and going back to animals, when we talk about a sacred power spot, you have them as spots that have been recognized since the dawn of humanity.

Before a specific religion came and claimed it as its own, and spots that even animals will gravitate towards. And these are the places where he noticed that you can go in with different ailments, and they can be of opposite effects. So you could have something that's underactive, I can have something that's overactive in the body, but we go to a power spot and we experience a type of censoring energy. And what was so special about these spots, that they were the basis of ritual pogum and chives. And this is the birth of bi-geometry, and what we say that we do in bi-geometry is to say that you're a doorman, you're a doorman, and what you do is recreate the censoring energy quality, and you see the effect. Now it happens to be that we actually see that what happens in a power spot when you see this effect, you get a huge relief from environmental stress, including the types of pollution that you just brought up. You get a hugely constructive environmental stress.

So we saw this again with the example I gave in Switzerland, and we saw this with the cow. And so yes, it is a way to help deal with everything that we are facing. And I would say until we reach the point where we're actually developing products of modern technology that are supportive to the environment, or I know there's products out there that are doing that, but I'll say developing all of our products to be supportive to the environment and supportive to the body.

TalkToMeGuy : And because you use that word so casually, would you say more about what I've heard you define radiosthesia as micro vibrational physics? Would you say more about radiosthesia because that's something in this country I don't think we know that much about?

Doreya Karim : So radiosthesia is actually if you break it down, it means sensitivity to radiation. And we use the term radiosthesia. It refers to different types of pendular instruments that we use in biometry that you can calibrate. Now what this means is a lot of times when people see something like a pendulum in somebody's hand for a dialing instrument, what they will assume is that the person is using it to ask questions, to be more sensitive to the subconscious, which is one pool, and that's what's called mental dowsing, but it's different from the school of physical radiosthesia that we refer to in biometry. And so to give you an example, we have for example, one of our pendulums, the horizontal pendulum, what it does is that you have different angle that you set it to, and each angle is sensitive to a specific color quality. Okay, so going back to what that means, what do I mean by a color quality or the word quality?

The word quality just means it affects. So it's specific too, so if you take the pendulum and you set it to red and you go over a red square, you'll find it turning red, if you set it to blue and you go over the blue angle, it'll go over, it'll start rotating over the blue color. Now of course, there's a lot more to this because when we start putting in pieces together, we begin to see that there's this, even just me now seeing that there's a relationship between angles and colors. Here's part of introducing you to what we call the physics of quality, this concept of when we look at things with qualities of vibration versus just a quantity or a specific frequency, because frequency is still a qualitative term, we find this concept of resonance between sound, colors, touch, taste, you hear of it in different schools, but the explanation is kind of hard to pin down, but it's really easy to see where for example, a good example that we use also to explain that calibration physical redness area is the monocord. So if you look at monocords, both familiar with Pythagoras is monocord, just a string that held tight on both sides and wherever you plug it, you would get a different note. Now it's the same thing, wherever we actually hold our pendulum, we find ourselves being able to be more sensitive to a specific wavelength or a specific quality.

Now this quality could be a color, it could be a sound, it could be really any of our sensory experiences. And so the idea with physical redness area is that you're not asking questions, you're getting the body to be sensitive to specific vibration.

TalkToMeGuy : And how does this differ from, I'll use the term old guy because I know old guys that do this, they seem to be mostly old guys who go out in the field and witch or dows using sticks or sometimes coat hangers, even the swanky guys I know bend coat hangers and make them so they swing in their hands so easily.

Doreya Karim : Yeah, with what dowsing there's a huge overlap because with water dowsing what's happening is that you're not actually asking yourself the question is there water here. What you're trying to do is that your body is mostly water. So you're trying to use yourself as what we would call a vibrational witness and then the coat hanger should vibrate. So it's actually very similar to another rediscesia tool called the Leisure Antenna which actually kind of pushes back towards you when you find the energy quality that you're looking for.

The difference in it is that you all focus at it, the different wavelengths like I was just mentioning. But with the water dowsers they become the antenna and so they will then wherever they find water they focus their focusing on the ground and looking for the reaction. We want to say coat hanger, they're looking for the reaction in the coat hanger when they are in resonance with the water in the ground. So really in this concept you actually see it in one of, there's a friend shirt of Stigius's luck called Abbe Mermet and his pendulum was really interesting and he just had a pendulum that's the way that you would get sensitive to things.

So just like now we said you know with water dowsing your body's mostly water so that's an easy thing to get sensitive to. But with Abbe Mermet's pendulum what he would do is he would hope he had a pendulum that you open up and then you would place samples of what you're looking for in the pendulum and then focus on that resonance. So for example the gold energy quality is actually one that's important to us in bi-dometry because it's one of the qualities that we find in a sacred tower spot.

And that's really the purpose of why we look for different qualities is because we're looking to recreate those of a sacred tower spot and so gold is one of them and so for example with his pendulum you could just put a little nugget of gold put that in there and then you would be looking for areas that are in resonance with the quality of gold.

TalkToMeGuy : And do gold miners do this now? Do they know that?

Doreya Karim : I couldn't tell you stories I've heard of but I know that one of my friends who was a mining company and you know she said well let me do my own mapping and hers matched exactly to those of the professionals who came on site.

TalkToMeGuy : Wow and weren't those professionals annoyed? I can just imagine I have a friend who was in the Vietnam War and because of his family of origin he grew up with a family who his grandmother would take him to the market and she would douse over a piece of fruit to see if it was ripe. So she had that intention of looking for ripe fruit. So he grew up with dousing in his life and when he was in the military there was some odd circumstance that occurred where he was in basic training and they said we need some volunteers we're you know blah blah blah and he said sure and it had to do with dousing and everybody's like what's that and he knew exactly what that was and so he spent the war in a room dousing maps for land mines. Oh wow and he was never wrong. Now he was a he's a dear friend of mine and he's a gifted dowser. He was actually the person who introduced me to your work many years ago when I thought he was just slightly crazed but I thought this is amazing so he introduced me to biogeometry but that's that was a skill that he had that he knew that dousing worked he knew the intention of what he was doing and he was always very good whenever he was training me or showing me things he was really good at I don't know what to call this other than a clear state.

He had no intention going in when he was working on a project or looking for you know something his intention was to get the information from what he was measuring so he was very good at going to a clear state and I don't think he was a meditator of that but he really went in with the I'm just looking intention.

Doreya Karim : Well I think that's also really important because we get a lot of students and the hard thing for them to move past is when they ask us but isn't this isn't the pendulum so easy to influence and we go of course of course it is yeah now the idea is as actually when we get classes what we have to explain is what influence is the pendulum and when you understand everything that influences the pendulum then you are able to make sure that you are not doing these things that will influence the pendulum and then you start getting these clearer readings. Now there's two ways so the idea is also cool the way we would use it so let's say now the mining let's take them sorry the mines is an example like we were just saying so there's two ways to do it so there's the mental dousing side would be actually going on the map and asking where are the mines and so this isn't what we do in biometry what we do in biometry is we would need to find one mine for example and get a wavelength for it so just like going back to the monocord just like you have different wherever you pluck the string on the monocord you get a different vibrational quality that you can differentiate as a different note it's the same idea we actually we lower our pendulum to different lengths to find the strongest one over a witness and so you then would for example with your mind as your witness need to look for the point on the pendulum that makes you the reticulis the most sensitive to this vibration and then you can start using a map to try to see where else a mine resonates with this so in essence if you think of two tuning for it it's like you have to shift your body to become the tuning force that you're looking for and

TalkToMeGuy : as you learn that so when you say adjust you mean the actual let's say the cord we'll get to the i entered instagram footage of you wandering in amazing squares dousing so as you're doing that as you're using your pendulum in these squares i'll try and try to link to some of these and put them in the show notes so people can watch you do it and i forget where you were i think it was possibly italy and you were okay and you were just walking along following the bg3 energy coming from the earth and so you're actually adjusting the length of the chain of the cord that's holding that until you feel a certain thing or

Doreya Karim : so that's actually a different time love so i actually explain two different kind of there's an angle one that i explain and then there's the one where you go or now the bg3 is a special pendulum and what that is is that when we start talking about so i briefly said you know colors are quality numbers are quality by the way for somebody to understand this i mean anybody's a little bit in the energy world for example you might to understand things of quality okay if somebody a lot of people will talk about things and they'll say they're associate for example the chakras with different colors and when you look at it that way when you associate the chakras with different colors now it why is it then that when you look at the chakras right go let's say for example the root chakra is red why is it that when i look at the root chakra i don't see the color red now this is actually the explanation of quality because it is not red red it is a red quality and so when we understand it as a vibration that's when we can then understand that it will be in resonance with the wavelength of the red quality when we're adjusting our pendulum so when we when we get to now the concepts of like you said we look at the interchangeability of scale between numbers colors angles um well actually i want to go back to numbers the numbers was what i was going to go to so when we understand numbers also have different energy quality now the bg16 pendulum you're mentioning this is a pendulum that was actually designed or pre-calibrated to rotate clockwise in the presence of a sacred tower spot and it does that through the number 16 so when we look at numbers certain numbers have the cg3 quality so 16 is one of them which might for some people be familiar in that the golden ratio for example is actually related to the reproduction of the energy quality of the number 16 but it's not the only number there's 16 there's 19 there's 28 and we use these a lot in design so the bg16 because it has a clumbable built to insulate it's actually designed so that you are able to detect the bg3 energy quality without calibrating your pendulum and it was designed because my father being an architect wanted to be able to give workshops to students to be able to reproduce this energy quality in their work and the pendulum helps um the pendulum is designed for that and helps them achieve that quickly and actually because when you're designing you design is one of the nicest ways to develop your skills because when you're designing a lot of the design exercises for example that we do in classes students are really accurate because they're actually doing this random design where they don't care about the answer so they really get into that state where the state you were just mentioning about where you're not going in with any type of intention and so the video that you're that you were you were mentioning I was going into this was actually a power spot that my father used to tell us about things we were tipped in and there was the story actually on the outside of the church there the growth of the church and it's of snewlix and regula to Egyptian missionaries actually and they were beheaded and the story goes that they picked up their head and they ran up the riverbank and the and they fell at the site where you have the church today and then there so the the the video that I had is you actually see now when you find a power spot it has the sacred energy quality the dg3 that you can detect through this bg16 it's called bg3 because when looking for basically like I said the birth of bi-dometry when my father started working in the field of energy as an architect he said what I'm looking for is how can I identify a sacred power spot he has some clues for example in in uh french redicemia um they would talk about one quality that was very much related to somebody who was spiritual that's called the negative green energy quality and they would use this to test how much somebody is spiritual but it wasn't enough to really isolate the quality of a sacred power spot and so this is where we have I mentioned um gold and you also have what we call an ultraviolet quality and then the negative green which is a grayish and as a color quality it's a grayish color and so your bg16 is designed to detect all of these together and the video that you see when we get to a power spot you find a lot of lines that cross and where they cross what we refer to as a power spot and so in my father's books back to the future of mankind there's actually a mapping of this church and there's a mapping of the pyramids for example and you can see the major lines which in some schools they refer to as lay lines crossing the pyramids or crossing the church and then you can find the points of highest energy and

TalkToMeGuy : once we know this once we and and do you you've had a how long have you had pendulums in your hand I know you've been working with your father directly for nine years did you go up in a world of pendulum well

Doreya Karim : I mean yeah if we celebrated uh I mean we're actually ready uh this year to be celebrating 50 years of biometrics so January we celebrated 45 years of biogeometry five years ago so this this year would be the 50th celebration I have not yet turned 50 and when I was born into this world I was born with really just with the pendulum in I would say in my hand but was not in when I say nine years it's usually in a type of I would say research and application setting of biometrics versus just having it as part of my daily life but I've had it as part of even when I was in school my school nurse was actually a student of my father so I actually grew up whenever I had even I went to the school nurse she would actually address it with

TalkToMeGuy : biometrics, you were that kid okay

Doreya Karim : I was that kid I actually wrote about biometrics from my school admission I um well I had my mom actually got us all to skip uh a grade in school and then when I went to a new school they said no we have to test her before we let her go into this grade and then apparently I wrote my admission essay on biometrics and of course my mom said that's it she's not getting in she's not getting into the school um

TalkToMeGuy : that's amazing well that's a maybe that's why it seems so it feels familiar to me because that's exactly how my friend was that did his name was John is John did work in Vietnam and you know he'd had dousing in his life always So to him, picking up a pendulum was not like, you see a lot of people at shows when we, when I used to do whole life expos and what would be called New Age fairs where people were discovering things.

It'd always be boots with pendulums and you'd see people come over and try and use a pendulum for the first time. And it was like, wow, they were always, and it was so different to see John pick up a pendulum because there were times when he would pick one up and drop it immediately because he didn't like the way it felt. Or he felt it was picking up something inappropriate or, you know, that felt bad. It was designed to pick up something. Well, they didn't know what they were designing. They just were designing, you know, it could be a bolt. He would do amazing things with a bolt on a string. I mean, he was really tuned into the world of touning.

Doreya Karim : And, you know, I mean, there's two things there. Like, one of the things is, you know, a lot of times when I started teaching, you know, my father said, you shouldn't, students in your class shouldn't feel like they're learning something new. They should feel like they're remembering something. And I think that's also a part of why, like, the new things, sometimes you feel comfortable in this world. I think a lot of people, you know, because a lot of times when we open up ourselves to the possibility, we find it's where we're kind of taught to believe that there isn't a logical way to understand these things. The first is a logical way to just think about them.

And that's actually one of the things that we do. We say, listen, this world of energy, of sowing, of, you know, even the concept of word-like spirituality, before we get into anything, let's define them because they're not well defined. And let's sit as a class and define these words so that we can then talk about them and expand from there. And then we go into what we call a physical quality.

Let's talk about the rules. We're going to be talking about how we can actually sit in everything that we're saying into one picture and how we can measure and validate those that. And we've also been very, we've been very careful that if you go on our website and you look at our research, you're actually not going to find an unison assembly. The reason for that is because we believe, we firmly believe that through the, by understanding this concept of energy quality, by understanding the concept of the censoring quality found in St. Casar's bus, we can produce measurable results like the work in Paseo and Amnesty, like the whole tree, like for example, we did work with Dr. Amodo and water quality, like we had to have to try to see projects. So we have, we have results that meet the mainstream criteria. And those are what we try to show because we try to show that you can have an effect. And so I think one of the, you even have students getting their masters of HEXE's and by dormitories. And one of the big steps that we, that we took for, that my father took was that he had a design student, for example, who was designing faces for people who have depression or flaws. And she designed these faces using bioentry principles and that was for thesis, but my father said, you know, it's not enough.

How are you going to test this? And then he actually had a colleague call up the medical department and in the medical department called him and said, you have to stop sending a design student. And he said, but why, why should you stop sending design students if they're getting results? And I think slowly, that's what we're trying to shift. We're trying to say that, okay, by understanding the energy of a, a state-of-the-art spot, by understanding this, you know, like I was talking about this multi-dimensional energy things that we have with the environment, by reproducing this energy quality to help support us, we can see results.

TalkToMeGuy : Well, and one of the things I love about biogeometry and that thing you just said, oh, you mean we're in relationship with the environment? What? How is that? Really? It's just mind-blowing to me when I see the kind of, you know, most of the shows that I do are talking about some sort of thing we're doing to the environment and how we try and help ourselves. From that, let's, you know, say glyphosate or electro small girl, these things. And that's why I really enjoy biogeometry is because it's, it is about that, but not in the way that people are panicking about it. You really are striving and having people work toward being in a place of centered or harmony, which we're our strongest, and being in relationship to our environment, not afraid of it. Am I reading that correctly?

Doreya Karim : Exactly. And it's not even, I mean, what we say is that the term that we actually use is that you are the environment. And, and one of the things that we talk about is this concept of the shift from right brain to left brain perception when we talk about how ancient man viewed the world. And we said, imagine at one point that you were living so in tune with the laws of nature that, that nature was cooking through you. But now what we don't understand is that as we find any shift in the environmental energy, automatically your shift we see in the body.

So it's really a simple thing where imagine you go into, imagine you go into a room where a lot of people are tense. You feel like you're going to be picking up on that. And of course there's things there, you know, there's things there that we can say, well, of course they're gonna be picking up on their body, language, they're picking up on all of these different things. But there's actually an energy exchange on the emotional level that happens or even better.

You know, I can tell you my, this is really interesting for me, my brother was talking about a study where they found that people could sense the color of the room that they were walking into, even blindfold. The big thing for us, so for example, I mentioned our work with Dr. Imodo is one of the things that we did with water is, so Dr. Imodo's work, it had to do with how intention affects water. And so he would say things to the water like, I love you, or a negative thing.

And you could find these water crystals that were coming out really beautifully, or just these pictures that weren't really forming into shape. And so one of the things when we worked with him when he came to us, he said, okay, so let's recreate, let's show that the environment can actually have this intention of positive energy quality. We can just have it in the environment without you saying, I'm gonna have a positive intention. And that's exactly what you did. Placing specific shapes in the room, we could see and these water crystals being formed, as if you were saying the positive affirmation, so it was.

TalkToMeGuy : Wow. I'm gonna, this is really, this all goes together, everybody just hold on, it's a little bit like a roller coaster ride for a minute. So I'm gonna jump from there to, I know that you and biodrometry does work with kids that have ADHD, and other states of non-centricness, I guess I'll call that. And that you have a space or did, when we talked last, a space in your Toronto office, maybe others, but I just know about the one in Toronto, where people could come and they would find themselves being in that centered state.

I don't know that that was the languaging, but that was kind of the result, exactly what you're talking about now. Could you talk about that and why aren't we building classrooms for kids, period?

Doreya Karim : I mean, we actually had a few students who did their master's or PhDs in related thesis topics. So one of them, and this is, I would guess I would say this is kind of where it all started. So one of them was a PhD thesis and this was done in Saudi Arabia, and the student put different biodrometry interventions in the space.

And so we have both, right? You can adjust the space that was listing or you can design a space in the beginning. Of course, even when you design a space, it's biodrometry, so you have to look at things like electricity, water, Wi-Fi, and different things like that. But she went in and she added different biodrometry interventions in the space, and then they tested the children for things like their focus and attention, their communication, their dynamic behavior, teamwork, their independence, then hyperactivity, social skills, academic skills, and all the students, all the students performed much better with biodrometry and psychics.

So that was one example. And then with another thesis, the one I was mentioning where the student was designing a space for detection, they actually tested that. So the experiment that the medical department came up with was to test it on serotonin levels of depressed mice, and then they had a control and two other drugs treatments, and they showed biodrometry as a viable solution to helping restore serotonin levels in depressed mice. And with that, we were able to work with the Autistic Society in helping design spaces that the government was building in Egypt. And so we started studying different shapes of a classroom that were stressful to an autistic child and relaxing, and we actually found that a square room or the 90-degree angle would be stressful to an autistic child. And so we started designing the ideal classroom, and we have that as a space in our office in Egypt, a mock-up of it that we were using in testing, where you can come in and experience the space for yourself. Wow. I'm ready.

TalkToMeGuy : I'd like to have my studio be in one of those. That'd be awesome to be broadcasting from a location that was completely cool because there's a lot of equipment here before me, not as much as your husband.

His husband is a renowned musician, and he has like, wow, we're talking equipment. So the idea of having that kind of, not only the ability to have a valid space, then let's say in the case of your husband's music, so he's producing in, I suspect, a very nicely centered space that will that music then carry some of that influence or that influence into people listening to it because it was produced in a balanced, centered space? Yes.

Doreya Karim : I mean, at least, well, I hope, I try to keep our space, we were talking about this, I try to keep our space as centered as possible, but whenever we're doing research, I have to take our solutions down. Right. And so this is one of the things we were talking about. But yes, I try to make sure at least his studio is always balanced with all of the equipment he's dealing with, and you can actually see this example and what we had as we did, that we used to call the silent sound CD.

It's coming back, we just have to reorder it. And the silent sound CD was actually done exactly like you said, it's a silent recording of a studio that's balanced. Whenever you play that CD, you can pick up these energy qualities in the six that you're playing.

Wow. And so that was the concept behind the silent sound CD. And so, yes, you could see that. And then he also has a track that he works on with my father, where they actually started looking at applying different bidometry design principles in music. That was actually done through the placement of specific notes to produce the CD.

TalkToMeGuy : Wow. So we could play, so let's, once the CD is back, you could play that in a pre-existing classroom, and they would get the influence of that silence. If they weren't already BG3'd, if they weren't wearing a pendant or had a cube in the room or something else, they would get benefit from having that playing during their class. That's in the form of a question. Yeah. Wow. And why aren't we doing that everywhere?

Doreya Karim: Yeah, we have a lot of students who are teachers and they'll have what we call the cube in the room. And they'll notice that that's an even sentence, so it's always really interesting. We had a class that was a kindergarten that was balanced by one of the classes, and they sent a letter thanking us. They said that they were losing a lot of teachers and missed the balance, saying they're actually not losing any teachers and they feel like the parents are more involved. So you see, and that's what I'm saying, we didn't think that that was maybe the only, that that was going to be the specific feedback. I mean with kindergarten kids, we didn't think that, you know, it's hard to say they're focused on that, but they did say that that wasn't their issue. Your issue was teachers. Their issue was that the teachers and parents, they said that a lot of times that kids would be dropped off stressed or picked up stressed because they do like the parents will always rush and they call it fast stops. And then they also saw that your teachers more.

TalkToMeGuy : Wow. That's an amazing, I would say side effect, but that's Andrew Weil taught me that side effects, there are no such things as side effects, it's all effects. So I think that's a wonderful effect. I met you now. There are places I'd like to have it just playing in like a Walkman in my pocket. That's all I am a Walkman in my pocket.

Doreya Karim : Every listener can make their own time at a time. You can find a place and you know, you also, for those not measuring now or anything, don't worry about it being a physical touch spot. And you need to take a touch spot. And most people will have a local physical touch spot near them.

Doreya Karim: But even if there's a place in nature that you just feel like, I wish you might say, I wish I could just, you know, move my equipment and make music here, record this space and play it. Report it on your phone and replay it when you're home. Replay it when you're meditating. Replay it when you're doing yoga, for example, or what if you're doing to work out or something like that. And then you will be reproducing the energy quality in that case. So that's a little trick for everybody.

TalkToMeGuy : Wonderful. I want to jump to asking about, because this; doesn't seem to be, it is one of the symbols of something. And I know there are energies coming out of it. I'd like to talk about the pyramids. Because that is such a symbol of, again, in the New Age community in the old days, there were people walking around with pyramids on their heads, you know, they'd make a wire pyramid, a four-sided wire pyramid, which I know now from reading and listening to you that that was a mistake because they're not really four-sided. But if it could you talk about the pyramids and maybe some of the energies that come off of the pyramids and are the different energies in the pyramids, all that kind of, I'm not trying to demystify everything. I'm just like, the pyramid is an amazing symbol of all of this. And why?

Doreya Karim : If we actually look at pyramids, and actually zones as well as shapes, we understand that these shapes, they're what we call energy emitters. They emit or amplify the energy quality upon which they're placed. So one of the big things about the pyramids in Egypt is actually the energy quality of the Giga Plateau. So where you actually find the most crossings of the sacred power spot line, and then at the area where you find the most crossings, it really is around the center of the pyramid. And so you see that they're actually all placed according to the crossings of the lines as well. And so this is the first thing that we talk about is that if we understand that something is an energy emitter, and we're reproducing it, like you said in our workspaces, I see the line crystals and different things, when you place these in faces, you have to be aware of what you're amplifying.

Well, that's the first step. If you have a pyramid, it's because you want to amplify an energy quality that you're aware of in this space. Now, the other thing for people to be aware of is that, like you said, that when most people reproduce the pyramid shape, they reproduce it for sighted. And if you look at the pyramids of Giza, there's a few photos where you can actually see that there's a tiny indent on each side making it eight sided. Now, this indent, if you actually have a four sided pyramid with the proportions, with the same proportions as the Giza pyramid, it actually has a draining energy quality. But if you add these notches, then we find that centering energy quality that we're looking for. There can be different types of what we would say pyramid solutions. We can find pyramids that are elongated, for example. That can be a different type of correction. With domes, you actually also find type of elongation towards the top or the bottom as a correction as well. But their main point is to amplify energy. So the next time I go to a

TalkToMeGuy : new living expo or some, I should be casually telling people, you know, that would work a lot better if it was eight sided. You might want to take that off your head for now.

Doreya Karim : I followed your speech and award a few years ago in Chicago for, he was a keynote speaker at a pyramid conference and receiving an award there for pyramid research. And it happened to be that there was like 30 by geometry students there and at least 10 pyramid vendors. And, you know, they spoke to a lot of them. We had a lot of them come in to take the class.

TalkToMeGuy : Wow. I can't imagine your father's day. I had a podium and speaking to people that have pyramids on their heads. I just think I'm joking with your father and I don't see that.

Doreya Karim : They didn't. And if they did, then the students around would have taken care of them and corrected them while they did.

TalkToMeGuy : You know, you might want to take that off for now and put it someplace.

Doreya Karim : If we actually had that in one of our projects, we started getting really good results. And so the farmer that we're working with here is a theory farmer. And then he started to try to, he got really fascinated by the results. And then he started building all of the pyramid shape.

Near the farm and in all his plants and agriculture. And then they weren't doing so well. And then Paul goes to the kind of which that we did. And so we actually went in and corrected. Well, we removed all of them, but we corrected issue as well. Before. Before kind of the front. Wow.

TalkToMeGuy : I've seen a lot of four-sided pyramids on people's heads in my day. And I always, people would put it on my head and it never felt right. I just felt. And it wasn't anything. I mean, I've put a lot of weird things on my head. So in the energy world.

But I just thought, no. And then there was also a meditation box. There was a mirrored box that you set it in a pyramid shape. And the idea was that you went into some sort of state because you were in a place where you're gazing at yourself at all angles. But it just always felt weird. And now it explains because it was four-sided. I don't want to sit in a box that's draining my energy. That seems counterintuitive.

Doreya Karim : Yeah. I mean, I think one of the things that with the pyramid specifically is the terminology. Right. So people will say it's a very powerful energy quality. Powerful doesn't mean good. And then also specifically with the pyramid, because it's such a strong energy quality, most people feel a rush of energy. And that the initial rush of energy, they automatically assume is like, oh, that's exactly like the word I said, powerful or energizing, for example. But it's not the energy quality that you're listening to. And the end it will be what we would call a detrimental energy quality.

It's a dehydrated energy. Actually, most people in the pyramid are aware of this. They're aware that the pyramids have a dehydrating energy quality. So if it has a dehydrating energy quality, then you can see that it is not one that is enhancing your life.

TalkToMeGuy : Yeah, I'm not looking for dehydration. Exactly. It's harmful. It's stressful. It's got to be stressful to the cells to be in a space that's dehydrating. Exactly. Wow. I can't believe we're so close to the end. No, we need like two more hours. I know. So I want to ask about the good

Doreya Karim : of electromagnetic creation, the same energy, the same dehydrating energy quality that you find in the uncorrected pyramid is the same energy quality that we look to adjust in electromagnetic radiation. And it's the fact that's on the logic. It's that same quality we call it vertical negative free.

TalkToMeGuy : And if somebody is, let's say they have the home kit, and they place those around the house, and you can go to biogeometry.ca and look up the home kit, and they place those around the house, will that assist them in becoming centered and so they can let down some of that? Oh my God, electro smog is going to something. Definitely.

Doreya Karim : I mean, just to tell you even what the home kit is. Okay, so there's all these little attachments, electricity attachments, elastics and things people will see when they look at the instructions. But to explain the main thing is the cube. And when you look at the cube, it has what looks like little notches inside.

Now, what these notches actually are is that when we went and we did our work in Switzerland, which was addressing electro smog, at that point, we were getting emails of people looking for a solution in their town and individual solutions. It's a little different because we got to work with the government. And so it wasn't like every government was giving access to and every telecom company and government giving us access to you know, the town and the cell towers.

And so we knew we had to develop an individual home solution. And what those notches are is they're actually the same shapes that we used on the cell towers, and they're just minimized into a cube. And so when you're replacing them, and we have these berries, so in those towns in H. Bergen, Switzerland, and we went and we checked it when they at any time they upgrade the cell towers, and they're still doing really well, you know, almost 20 years later. And so those that's what's in the cube. It's those same shapes that we have in those harmonized towns of Switzerland, and they're just smaller made for an individual home.

Now with an individual home also, the home kit is great because we're aware of the variables we want to address. So we want to address the overall energy of the state. And then and we were having this conversation as well, right before we started speaking, our first thing before we talk about problems is really just looking at creating a centered space. And then once we have a centered space, then we start looking at individual solutions that we need to address in the state, because the way that we approach things is not from a negative approach, it's from a positive approach. And so you can be going in and solving so many little individual things in your state, but it doesn't mean that you have a centered space. So we first work on what we call that overlaying or overall solution. And then with the home kit, you're going to go in and you're going to address things like specifically placed shapes on your Wi-Fi routers, specifically placing on your electric channel. And those are also going to help relieve a lot of stress. I do love biogeometry.

TalkToMeGuy : I have to take a moment, we're going to go a little bit long, because I want to ask you about the your mandala book, which I think is such a sleeper. I think it's such a great, I'd called it tool, but that doesn't seem like the right word.

How is the mandala book out there and huge now? I just think it's such a wonderful, I got a number of them and gave them to friends and they called it and let, this is really fun. I didn't really tell them why I was doing it. I just gave it to them like, here, you're an artist, you'd enjoy this. Plus, amazing.

Doreya Karim : That mandala book, it was actually something I made for myself. There was this coloring book craze and I actually saw it with my nieces and they had these very cool books that you would color. And then I thought, and then it was like, oh, you do this to relax. And then I was like, okay, well, we can, you know, I was just felt weird with all of the work that we're doing and I'm sitting there coloring with those. I said, well, I can actually do something where it's not just the activity of coloring, but the shapes that you're using have that effect on you. And then so this is, that was really the birth of the coloring book. And it uses all of the shapes.

It's about 16 mandalas in there. And they're all based on what we call bi-dometry signatures. And those are all available in a book as well, all of the signatures. And what bi-dometry signatures are is you were talking a little bit about color qualities and different ways to measure those. So if you start measuring every organ, you'll find that there's different pathways running through every organ, just like compared to your body, how you have the meridian mind. And so the bi-signatures are actually the pathways to enter into resonance with those.

And of course, every single one has been adjusted to give you the energy of a sacred power spot. And so I chose a few bi-signatures and turned them into these mandala designs for coloring. And then when my father was releasing the bi-dometry signatures book, which has all of those signatures in there, and that was actually the 45 years anniversary of my John Fee that we released that, we also added the mandala book. And I get all of these, we're talking about autism, I get a lot of students that actually have taken the book and taken it to autistic centers or work with it with kids. And I'm always surprised because they're pretty intricate. And I thought kids wouldn't enjoy them as much, but they do.

And they sit down and they color. And, you know, it was the feedback, I love the feedback that I asked, I've got a lot of people who say I got this book thinking it was, I got it as a gift thinking like I wouldn't use it. But then when I started coloring, I really enjoyed the feeling that I got.

TalkToMeGuy : That's exactly my feedback from a couple of people that I gave it to that one of them happens to be an artist and she was like, what are you giving me?

What is this? And she's always suspicious because I've always got something that seems suspicious. You might feel better. I didn't tell anybody anything, I just gave it to them. And one of them did call me a couple days later and said, you know, that was really fun. I really felt better or calmer or I can't remember exactly what her word was, but it wouldn't be centered.

But I wouldn't tell her that because then she'd be like, oh, no, that couldn't possibly be it. And it was great. It's such a lovely subterchuge in the best of ways.

I'm getting into somebody's hands. And I also had a grandson who was pretty young, but he was hyper. But I suspected it was too much sugar to fight, but that's a separate show. Well, they gave him the book and the mom texted me and said, oh, Jeff colored for like an hour, which was a miracle for the kid to want to stay in place and color for or do anything for an hour. And she was amazed. And he did a really good job. And the Mandala book is such a great here. Call it these in. See if you feel better. It's wonderful.

Doreya Karim : Yeah, I mean, I think I like I like I love the feedback. I didn't expect the feedback that I got from a lot of people. And, you know, I just looked one day on Amazon and it was, you know, 50 or 70 reviews on there. And I was like, wow, it was really nice to see, you know, that it's really reaching people and there's any difference. It's really great.

TalkToMeGuy : So I am at the point we have so many other questions. But I have to ask you, where would you like to have people find up more about bio geometry, your books? I'm excited to see you now are having some online classes. Where should people go to find out more about you, your work in bio geometry?

Doreya Karim : So the resource that you mentioned works by geometry.ca.

TalkToMeGuy : Everything's there. Have a beverage. There's a lot of information there. Every time I go there, and I've been there a lot. And I'm still like, but this whole section over here, I've never seen. That's amazing. Wonderful. Thank you so much, Doreya . We'll do this again. This is a whole other show on my mind.

Doreya Karim : No, yes, I'm really looking forward to speaking again. And it's nice to always pick up where we left off.

TalkToMeGuy : Exactly. Exactly. All right, everybody. Have a great rest of the weekend and we'll see you next week. Bye bye.