Greg the Hydrogen Man, on His Journey with Molecular Hydrogen

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TalkToMeGuy: With that, Greg's journey isn't your typical success story. Just a few years back, he was facing what seemed like insurmountable health challenges, severe depression, a compromised immune system, tumors, autoimmune conditions, gut issues, arthritis that left him wheelchair bound, and a serious heart condition that had doctors worried. Instead of accepting defeat, Greg became his own health detective and that's when he stumbled upon something that would change everything, molecular hydrogen. For four intensive years, Greg dove deep into studying this remarkable compound, implemented it into his daily routine, and reversed his health challenges.

We're talking about going from wheelchair bound to walking, from the despair to hope, from sickness to vitality. Greg is here to share the incredible benefits he's discovered with hydrogen therapy, from protecting against EMF radiation to treating skin conditions, supporting hormones, even discussing its potential with COVID-19. He's going to give us the inside scoop on what to watch out for when you're shopping for hydrogen generators because not all of them are created equal. We're going to explore the fascinating world of molecular hydrogen, the man who literally bet his life on it. And one, welcome, Greg.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Thank you. I got a little emotional here in you, thanks, read all that because it's been my life.

TalkToMeGuy: It's been your life. I read that my study style is somewhat shotgun in that I read and listened to a lot of different sources because I like to get the different textures and stories. It really is true. I mean, you really committed to becoming your own best practitioner for yourself.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: I had to. Yeah. Yeah, I was really forced to, you know, I worked. It's kind of funny. I worked in the medical field for about two decades, maybe a tiny bit more. And I really saw what went on behind the scenes of Western medicine.

And I got really disillusioned in the sense that I saw our limitations big time and I saw what we were not able to do for patients on the regular. I've worked with countless doctors, countless specialists, and I know exactly how the system works. And, and I remember thinking to myself, God, I hope I never get sick. And then the worst thing happened, I didn't just get sick. It ruined my life.

I hate to say that, but it really did. And I just have this mentality. You know, I really thought, if I can figure this out, I just know that it'll work for others. And I prayed about it because I was suffering. I was, I still remember to this day suffering on the couch because I couldn't walk and I was in so much pain. And, and it was so frustrating because listening to all these different health podcasters and the next health guru and the next product and supplement and it was the new diet fat and I was always trying all this stuff trying to get better and to be quite honest, it wasn't really working. And I was spending so much time effort, money, things that didn't work.

And, you know, my biggest frustration and I don't know if you can relate to this. I was just trying to figure out like many different things, but when I stumbled upon water, it seemed that everybody would disagree. Some people would be like, no, you got to drink spring water. No, you got to drink alkaline water.

No, you got to drink this type of structured water. No, you, and it's like at some point I got so frustrated. I thought, well, which water is the right one? You know, because everybody's disagreeing. And, and that took a massive amount of research and it all started with me thinking, well, I just want clean water. How about that?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: You know, yes, how about that?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: You know, I don't care what pH it is. Can I just get all the pharmaceuticals out of it or all the chemicals out of the water or the mold or the parasites or the bacteria or the God knows what I mean, I have lab reports. Pesticide. Pesticide.

Oh my gosh. I mean, I have pages of lab reports that I've seen about water. And I looked at every water filtration modality and existence. And it was nature, you know, for me, figuring out the answers was ultimately observing nature, backing it up with science, doing critical thinking. And I just stopped listening to everybody else as crazy as that sounds.

I mean, I'm open to listening to people and data, but, and I read a lot of scientific data on my own without it being, you know, given to me by somebody because I wanted to be very neutral about everything, you know, because I wanted it to work. And so that's how the whole thing went down. And I ended up learning. I basically became a water expert at this point. I know all water filtration modalities. And then I ended up becoming a hydrogen expert too, because that's that's really what saved my life was the hydrogen.

TalkToMeGuy: And how did how did hydrogen come into your view or world? It's not. It's now just becoming popular. And it's mostly popularized by devices. We both know about and you'll talk about later. But it's it's it hadn't been that I mean, I've been in the health field for I'd like to say 20s, but it's more like 30 years. I got a degree as a master herbalist in the 70s and had a national and a male order catalog and a real largest selection of botanicals in the West United States.

So I'd been in the health field for a long time and exposed to a lot of stuff. And it was only the past couple of years that hydrogen has begun to float from the top to the top. And also I have a friend who lives in Albuquerque and they go out and collect some stone that has some property to it that releases hydrogen and you put some sort of rod in your inhaling Brown's gas. So I've heard about it, but it's just now becoming like, oh, everybody's talking about hydrogen.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, it's become quite popular. I mean, I actually read basically the very first studies ever done on it right back in around oh seven. And when I was reading that I actually thought it was a scam. I thought it was a hoax I was reading it think this is way too good to be true.

There's no way this is true. And I didn't really understand hydrogen because nobody had ever explained it to me. And I kept reading more and more data that kept kind of coming in front of me. And I kept thinking I mean I literally read the data for almost four years without even trying it because I really thought it was a scam.

Yeah. And then I started trying to look at world is data was coming from and obviously it was coming from Japan. And it was very reliable sources and I was thinking this is odd and then eventually did get medically approved and then I was thinking okay this sounds legit. And I was suffering a great deal. All those years trying to find answers and I wasn't finding answers. And, and then I thought well maybe I need to try this stuff. And then of course I became a whole other rabbit hole because you can't just go to the corner drugstore and say okay I want some medical grade molecular hydrogen.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: That'd be great if you could though.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Oh man it would have made things so much easier. I mean, I spent huge years of my life and so much effort and so much money trying to figure out the answers. But in the end it was from Japan. The Japanese are masterful when it comes to water when it comes to hydrogen when it comes to things that require precision and purity. And so they really done a an amazing job with what they've done and it literally saved my life and and it really led down an interesting path even discovering a man who developed the equipment that I use you know which we won't go into really but it's Japanese but his story is remarkable. Oh my gosh if it wasn't for this man I don't even think I'd be here. Someday I wish to meet him and thank him because his equipment that he developed for his sick daughter.

That's how this really happened. I don't know if you heard that story but you know he he knew about hydrogen but there wasn't any good equipment out there. It's very rudimentary. Nobody invested the time and money to develop like really good equipment. And equipment matters as you know we were talking about ozone earlier off the air and I'm sure you understand and know that how you produce things matters.

Whether the way you produce vegetables you know you want good soil no pesticides or besides you know insecticides whatever. And so hydrogen was no different and it took a lot of research but it just it just led to down such a weird path because yeah that it saved my life yeah and there's also and I don't think the world even knows this yet. There's a huge spiritual component to hydrogen. I mean hugely hugely spiritual and I and I noticed throughout my path that spirituality and health actually coincide. They're literally like well they really have everything to do with each other.

And hydrogen I believe that is going to be discovered. I mean the things that is done not just for me physically. I never thought he would do the things that has been doing to me mentally like emotionally spiritually. I just did not expect that. And I'm kind of a skeptical kind of guy. So it's been a really really wild ride and it has I think so much of it has to do with blood. You should see the things that hydrogen when hydrogen done correctly what it does for the blood it's so unbelievable like crazy. So it's been an amazing amazing journey and I'm extremely grateful one to the Japanese for really figuring all this out as you probably know you know that nature does this too right you heard of Lord's France.

Yep. And so that's another thing you know observing nature was a huge part of my process. And when I heard of the waters of Lord's France and find out that the Japanese discovered that that water had high levels of molecular hydrogen and that appears to be what was helping all these people overcome all these medical issues. So it's been a lot of pieces that I had to put together for a very long time to ultimately figure out my protocols which now the things that they're doing are just I can't even believe them. I was just telling you about a guy with Parkinson's who couldn't stand up.

He's literally walking now. There's a woman who's almost 100 years old multiple heart conditions her her doctor literally told her you're going to die like we can't do surgery on you you're almost 100 years old. You have all these heart conditions and you're on you know she's been on medications pharmaceuticals like to control her blood pressure actually for almost 40 years. And she did this protocol I created with clean water and the best hydrogen in the world.

And I'm not kidding you all those conditions disappeared. I actually got an email. I made a whole video about it.

An email from the doctor like stating all these conditions just went away and this was from her cardiologist, including having to take her off the pharmaceuticals or they just can't believe. And I've had countless stories like this I've been doing this for years and it just fathoms my mind that that the world doesn't know. You know I mean people hear about hydrogen but as you know there's a lot of gimmicky stuff that in my personal opinion I think actually potentially be dangerous. You know I'm not making any medical claims I'm not making any medical advice. And I'm not making any claims for or against any products you know it's just you know the things that people recommend because you can make hydrogen cheap it's just. I'm sure you know it's like trying to filter water in a cheap way. There's a difference between doing it right and doing that the wrong way.

TalkToMeGuy: I have a question in chat somebody just typed in we have an active chat room. Oh and he's asking about. What do you think about taking a hydrogen bath. Are there hydrogen bath tubs or portable hydrogen bubbles strong enough for the bathtub.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: The simple answer is no so taking a hydrogen bath would be super amazing. The problem is is that for you to produce the amount of hydrogen to dissolve into that amount of water like I'll give you an example to hopefully explains it.

So the best equipment in the world right now is Japanese and that's what I use for safety and effectiveness. And the best machine in the world holds 1.5 liters in a picture and it takes half an hour to saturate that 1.5 liters with hydrogen. So think about that small amount of water can you imagine having to do a giant bath about how long it would take.

And on top of it all. If you were to do it when the water is hot so if you have if you want to talk about that's actually warm and comfortable. It's going to not only take longer the hydrogen is literally escaping so fast. Good luck ever getting that water saturated with hydrogen you would need the equipment that you would need which by the way it's funny that he asked that question because I'm not even at liberty to disclose some information. I have found confidential information that I can't disclose legally but what I can tell you what I can tell you is there is a tub that was developed.

I can't tell you what it was developed for but it was developed in Japan for very large so basically it would be a very large tub bigger than a normal bath tub. But the equipment would have to be so powerful and put out so much power to produce that level of hydrogen and the cost is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. So it's nothing that would be realistic for the average person. So I've seen a lot of equipment that they do sell out there claiming that it's going to make hydrogen your bathtub. But I am extremely skeptical now that I know all the science about hydrogen and all the I become a hydrogen production specialist.

I know exactly how do they produce this stuff and you're not going to be able to do a big tub unless it was done in a very proper manner which would be extremely expensive.

TalkToMeGuy: And is hydrogen akin to ozone in that ozone has a half life of about five minutes in depending upon how warm the water is. I'm talking about water applications. That means it reduces by 50% every five minutes. So it pretty much dissipates quite rapidly. But the same thing to say. So does hydrogen dissipate rapidly as well. Once it's produced.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: That's actually a very good question because the answer would be it depends on how it's produced. So there's different ways to produce hydrogen. In my personal opinion in my experience, the best way is a stable way. You want the hydrogen to be as stable as possible so that it can be very bio available and then you can actually get it in your body.

That's why I'm not a fan of like they sell like hydrogen tablets, which I mean most of the hydrogen's gone in like 50 seconds. Yeah. And I think it's ridiculous to be quite honest with you as my opinion on it even though. Well, you know people love to sell stuff. But I'm not a fan of those products.

I like the most stable hydrogen which is actually again the Japanese one that I use because they make it the most stable way. It will literally in a 68 to 70 degree room because it you know it's based on temperature as you just stated. Temperature matters and the movement of the water matters.

So if the water is totally still and it's in roughly 70 degrees, all the hydrogen will be gone if you pour it in a cup in about one hour. So the way the Japanese are making it is very different. And so one hour is actually pretty darn good. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, but that means of course that in half an hour, half of it's about gone. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And you want certain levels of hydrogen in order for it to be effective. And so typically I drink my water when I pour it in a cup, definitely less than five minutes. And usually I finish my cup within two to three minutes, maybe one minute, you know, I don't take long to drink my hydrogen water.

TalkToMeGuy: I can understand why. As I say with ozone, why use to have a I used to have a two person hot tub and I had an ozone generator on that hot tub with a circulator and the ozone generator was designed for 30,000 gallon pool. Oh, so it produced so much ozone that I had that you had to have a fan on to blow the ozone gas away from you in the tub because ozone gas can be irritated to the mucosa. And irritate your lungs.

That's what I was going to ask you. Topically it's nothing but invigorating. But in terms of breathing it in, it can be quite an irritant. And people would take a hot tub in it and come away just stunned because most people have the experience of soaking in chemical water is what I call it, most hot tub pools. It's just chemical water because they put something in there and then they add something to balance out to something. It's just chemical soup.

My hot tub had nothing in it but water and it was purified by ozone. And so when people came out, they would come out invigorated and relaxed. Whereas most people get in a hot tub and they soak for half an hour an hour and they come out and they're like zonked. And the zonk part is from all the chemicals that they've assimilated to normally.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, it's so sad, right? Because the skin is the largest organ of the human body. And if you have wisdom, you can utilize water and your skin in certain ways for healing.

And you really are saying the obvious, though people don't seem to understand that pools and bathtubs and all this tap water is very toxic in my personal opinion. I mean, I'm not going to make any statements because I get attacked.

TalkToMeGuy: I'll make statements. Don't worry, you don't have to. I'll make statements. I've got statements. For example, I have friends in the wine industry up here who've been growing biodynamic wine for decades. And biodynamic is the most advanced form of regenerative, sustainable, agricultural, imaginable, and then beyond. It is also another, it's a world of energetics as well. And they're now finding that they have glyphosate traces in their wine.

Oh yeah. Because it's in the water table so much that it's screwing up their water table. I almost said bad words. So it's in our water. You need to do something to our water.

So I do, we're going to step sideways just for a moment. I would ask you, if you would please talk about the one machine that you really do recommend or suggest or whatever the correct word is, the Holy Hydrogen Water Machine. Because of the kind of water quality that it produces and then adds hydrogen to that. Would you talk about that a bit?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, so it doesn't produce water. I have a separate device for that, which is carbon distillation. That's how I clean my water. My video 388 goes into all the details and science about why it's the best way. And then the hydrogen generator that I found, and I looked at every single one out there, I bought many. I didn't realize it first. I feel foolish for this, but at first I didn't realize that they're not all created equal. I just thought a hydrogen generator would be a hydrogen generator. I didn't realize that some might be dangerous for your health actually because people don't know what they're doing.

So I can give you some simple things in the engineering aspect. Like I would never use a hydrogen generator that has stainless steel for metal. I would never use one that uses lye, which is sodium hydroxide.

Which is the main ingredient in Drano. And if you can believe this, people literally use that stuff to make hydrogen. I just think it's insane.

Yeah, yeah, for real. And people, and so many doctors use it. And it's because that's how foolish they are when it comes to hydrogen. They just don't know. And they've been, in my opinion, they've been literally duped.

They don't know how to do it right. And the Japanese, of course, are masterful when it comes to the science of metals and metallurgy. And when they developed the device that you were mentioning, the Holy hydrogen device, which is what I use, the story behind it was so interesting because I had to learn all about not only hydrogen production. I didn't realize, again, I feel so stupid, that a lot of companies don't really care about making the best stuff.

They want to cut corners and they're trying to make money. And so you have to find one of these crazy people out there who actually do it for the love. And trying to do it for all the right reasons, which is always very unusual, actually, as you dive deep into the world of health. And it was a Japanese man who sadly, his daughter was born with a very severe form of ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease. And he read about hydrogen. He thought it would make a difference. They told him his daughter was going to die by the age of three or five years old.

And it was just such a sad story. And this guy went out and literally gathered top engineers from top Japanese companies with the best knowledge in the world about hydrogen. I mean, people from literally Toyota, G-Shock, Yamaha, Kobe Steel, like huge corporations. And they had no need to help this guy. He was just trying to develop hydrogen for his daughter that was, by the way, safe. He found out from his physician that he literally couldn't give his daughter any of the hydrogen that was on the market.

All the devices had flaws and potentially creating impurities. I'm not going to make any claims on that, but that's what his doctor told him. And that's why he had to develop the purest, safest, I mean, just the best there is when it comes to hydrogen. Basically what we call medical grade. I don't think people understand that when we talk about medical grade, for example, oxygen, like in tanks at a high level, in a hospital, that just means that it's of extreme high purity.

That's what it means. And purity is everything really. I mean, you were just talking about the purity of water and how important it is. And that's actually what really helped change my protocols in my life is everything became about purity, the purest water, the purest hydrogen, the purest food, the purest air, just purity and these chemicals that I think are just wrecking havoc on our body. And they're everywhere. Again, they're in our water, they're in our clothes, they're in the air, they're in our food, they're just everywhere.

And it's so frustrating. And, you know, one of the beautiful things about hydrogen is how much it protects you. On my video number eight, I show the difference of cells being bombarded by certain cancer treatments.

And the difference of using hydrogen with it or without it was just dramatic. Like, if I give you one example, have you ever heard of a drug called Cisplatin? No. So it's an anti tumor, you know, it's a cancer drug. Doctors almost never use it because it literally destroys your kidneys.

So first you go in for cancer and then they give you a drug that just you end up being a kidney transplant, right? So they don't use it much. They did a study just to show you how powerful hydrogen is. They use hydrogen with the Cisplatin to show you how much it would protect you and the kidneys remained at over 70, about 73 to 78% still function, which is crazy for something that would just destroy your kidneys.

It's still almost functioning almost 80%. And that's just with something so drastic as Cisplatin. Imagine all the things that you encounter on a daily basis that you don't realize or reckon havoc on your body. And hydrogen is like, literally like a guardian angel. It's protecting your health. And it's just dramatic how much it can protect you. I could give you countless examples.

I mean, they literally use it in Japan. I saw a woman who was deemed terminal in regards to cancer. And, you know, I can tell you how hydrogen, for example, yes, it reduces oxidative stress, for example, which is really good for trying to battle disease. It protects DNA. It literally suppresses somatic mutations. It's been shown to suppress cancer cell growth, induce cancer cell death, suppressing the spread of cancer, aiding in the effectiveness and protection of anti-cancer drugs. So it literally helps certain anti-cancer drugs work better while protecting you from the negative side effects.

I mean, it's so unbelievable. It protects you from radiation. In fact, I keep wishing that Elon Musk would hear me on a podcast someday because I don't believe that you can even make it to Mars without hydrogen because of the amount of radiation that you encounter on the trip there. It's just too much for the human body.

The human body gets exposed to massive amounts of radiation when you're in outer space. And I believe that hydrogen will be that game changer. And, you know, of course, it's shown improved survival rates and quality of life and all that stuff again with the whole cancer thing. But there's so many things that I've seen. I mean, if I were to name the list of these conditions that I've literally witnessed myself, I've seen people in my own family with blood pressure issues, cholesterol issues, diabetes, glaucoma, macular degeneration, arthritis, Crohn's disease, Celiac disease, IBS, people with lung issues, people who've had a lot of neurological stuff, dementia, Alzheimer's.

I've been working, I just recently worked with somebody with TBI, Traumatic Brain Injury. She literally called me. Some of these are very heartfelt. I cry so much from these because it's so touching and just everything that I've been through. And you realize how important health is. And this woman literally called me and told me I saved her life. You know, I didn't know that she was going to be ending her life. I didn't even know that when she reached out to me.

And she had lost hope because she had spent almost a quarter million dollars on medical treatments that never worked. And she did my simple protocol with literally just clean water and hydrogen. She didn't even do my dietary protocol. She just did clean water and hydrogen with the equipment that I obviously use and recommend. And her TBI is gone. It was unbelievable.

She couldn't believe it. And, you know, so there's just been countless, countless stories like that because I've been working with so many people for so long. And the power of hydrogen is real and it's beautiful. And ozone too. I really believe that the future, we're going to discover a lot of different types of medical gases. I'm actually working right now with a doctor who's a medical gas specialist. And the sad thing is, I mean, he literally had to talk to me.

This is the crazy part. We're talking about an expert in medical gases and he had to learn from me because that's how little people know about hydrogen in America. But the Japanese are up there and there's just sadly, it's breaking my heart personally, so much bad information being given about hydrogen in America due to corruption.

As you and I were talking about off camera too. And so I hope that people, if they really interested, look to the Japanese, they've done a lot of credible work. They haven't done like 20 studies or 100 studies on hydrogen. It's over 2000 studies up to date. It's something that is very legitimate as they're using it in actual university hospitals, about 30 of them roughly in Japan at this time.

And it's the real deal. I mean, I've got not only a ton of medical literature on it, I have information from medical centers, clinics that are using it medically in Japan that are like one of them specializes in a lot of like dimension, all simers type of stuff, which is a big deal. Because in America, they'll tell you there's no treatment for such a thing. And I literally worked with a woman who contacted me about her mother and her mother just even recognized her own daughter, which is very sad. And she did my protocol and she sent me beautiful pictures and a beautiful email. She's like, she didn't even believe the results. She's like, is the hydrogen really doing this because my mother now recognizes me. She looks so much better. She can talk now. She recognizes all the nurses that care for her. She says it's so unbelievable, but she goes, I just, is this normal results because I can't believe what I'm witnessing. And I mean, even me, you know, throughout all these years, it doesn't cease to amaze me. The hydrogen stuff is just, I actually believe here, here's something that you might be interested in, Richard.

This is my own theory. I believe that hydrogen and oxygen, which are the two things that make water, right? H2O, hydrogen and oxygen. And you were talking about ozone, which basically is just additional oxygen.

It's O3, right? But the reason the ozone is so good or the reason oxygen is good at what it does is actually, I call it the death molecule. And a lot of people be like, why would you call oxygen the death molecule?

It gives us so much life. Oxygen is oxidizing. This is why oxygen or ozone, for example, O3, it kills things. That's why it keeps the water clean. It kills pathogens, right?

Then there's nothing wrong with killing pathogens, but of course you have to be cautious on how you use such a thing. Just like you were stating, it could be irritant to the lungs, right? Because it burns. That's what ozone does.

It can burn. And hydrogen is different. Hydrogen is not the death molecule. It doesn't kill things. Hydrogen is what I call the life molecule. It really brings life to things.

One of the things that I think the world doesn't even know yet, Japanese know about it a little bit. I already have my own theories is how to use hydrogen agriculturally. You should see what it does for plants. You should see what it would do for food. It will transform the world of agriculture. It will transform the world of medicine and health. It will transform the world of athletics.

That's another one I want to do. I want to work with people in athletics, especially like boxers and football players and MMA fighters. There's people who get hit in the head a lot because I think we all know at this point, you want life after football or life after sports for people to be good. But so many of these people end up having issues from getting hit in the head so much. And again, the free radical damage it can cause and the symptoms that it leads to.

And so, yeah, hydrogen is really the life molecule. One of my favorite examples, I feel like I'm talking your ear off now, but this is one of my favorite ones. In Japan, they scared that if you have a stroke and you're not getting proper blood supply to the brain, you need to understand that life is in the blood. That's actually another that's from ancient scripture, which I also studied in order to find answers for health. And life is in the blood, meaning if I cut the blood supply off to your arm, Richard, what's going to happen to your arm?

TalkToMeGuy: It's going to rot or it's going to die.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Right. Right. And so life is in the blood, right? So some people will have a stroke and not get any blood supply to the brain. And if they're not getting blood supply to a certain part of their brain, that part of the brain is going to die. And it's not going to take very long for it to start dying. Well, the Japanese discovered that if you inhaled hydrogen gas, it would literally keep that part of the brain alive with no blood.

Wow. That showed me that hydrogen is the life and the life within the blood because inside the blood, people don't realize, yes, you have a lot of nutrients flowing in there. Yes, you have oxygen, right?

That's how they check oxygen, hydration levels. So the nature literally is designed to dissolve gases into liquids, you know, which is what I do with hydrogen water. I'm dissolving the gas into a liquid and your blood is no different.

You're breathing in a gas, you're literally breathing in about 20, 21% oxygen in the atmosphere and you're dissolving that into your bloodstream. But your body also produces, guess what, hydrogen. Your body produces it. And so it's in your blood.

That is the life that is coursing through your veins. However, as we age and so many things that are the dysbiosis is happening to our gut from all the garbage in our food and all these pesticides and over prescription of antibiotics and all this stuff that just wrecks havoc on our gut. And so that the Japanese proved that we start making a lot less hydrogen as we're aging. And a lot of times I think even in the youth, in my opinion, and so ultimately you really want to get those levels up, you know, you want proper levels of oxygen, but you want proper levels of hydrogen in the body. And so when they use hydrogen for people like with strokes, they're able to make a full recovery without being all screwed up later in life. And so that's something that should be done medically in America, but they don't even they don't even know about it. This is very difficult to find data.

TalkToMeGuy: So I have, I want to interject two questions that were backing way up because this is a thought that came to me a while back, but I have two questions. One is, do you think part of the, let's say I'll use the term benefit of hydrogen, particularly in the case of cancer patients, is that in some way it's, it's helping our bodies be more vital by actually supplying energy to the mitochondria of the system. I think it's it's bumping our vitality and I mean that in a good way.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, I think it definitely that's one of the many, many, many things that it does. You know that the word hydrogen means that which becomes water. Are you aware of that?

TalkToMeGuy: I've heard it, but I always forget it. Yeah.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: And so hydrogen, I mean, think about all the things that water does in your body. I mean, it'd be bonkers. Yeah. You know, it's part of everything from your spinal fluid to your, you know, your tissues. I mean, this is why elderly people, for example, have heat strokes more easily is because their bodies actually have less water.

Right. You know, and hydrogen, by the way, is also more hydrating, which is another interesting one. You know, again, ozone or oxygen can burn. Hydrogen is very soothing. In fact, they use it for beauty in Japan because of what they've shown for what it does for the skin and for collagen production and how anti-aging it is. I mean, the benefits that are have are just astronomical and it's one after another.

I mean, I think they've shown to date. There was a really great report I read in Japan. Massive amount of medical conditions. I think it was almost like 200 of them.

So this huge list. And next to every medical condition was the pharmaceutical that you'd have to take for that condition. And then next to that was more pharmaceuticals for the side effects that the first pharmaceutical was causing. And then they showed hydrogen because they had shown that hydrogen had been effective for all those conditions and they couldn't understand how that was possible. They knew it was doing it.

They just didn't understand how and why. And so it's very complex. I mean, it is a very unique selective antioxidant. And I don't think that most people understand, Richard, are you aware that antioxidants come in all sorts of different sizes? Were you aware of that?

TalkToMeGuy: I hadn't thought about it that way.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, most people hadn't. If you ever pull up a chart and it'll show you the size of vitamin C versus the size of vitamin E versus the size of glutathione, CoQ10, and then it'll compare them to hydrogen. And hydrogen is super tiny. So if you were to imagine these antioxidants, imagine like an elephant trying to go to the front door of your house.

It's not going to happen. And there's a lot of areas and nicks and crannies in the body where these, for example, antioxidants can't reach. Like, for example, the core of the mitochondria. And we were starting to learn in the world of science that a lot of medical conditions have to do with mitochondrial dysfunction. And that was actually one of the first studies that was done on hydrogen was actually done on how it was affecting the mitochondria and how amazing it was for the mitochondria. So it seems to establish that balance once again so that the body can start running properly. You know, proper hydration, mitochondrial function. I've noticed for me personally, I mean so many things that it does.

But one of the things that I noticed is it's been helping me with nutrient absorption. I literally had a doctor who I just blew her mind. She's a blood specialist of over 30 years. And I was getting blood work regularly because I wanted to make sure I had when I was over trying to overcome my medical problems. One of the things I learned was any nutritional deficiency can lead to disease or an imbalance in the body. And I was shocked to find out that almost everybody is deficient in something. So everybody is deficient. And so I vowed to overcome all my nutritional deficiencies, hoping that that would help with my medical problems. And of course that's a very difficult thing to do.

And especially if I wanted to create a simple protocol that could be followed and anybody could do. And so I was getting blood work regularly to see my fine methods were working. Well, the hydrogen was doing something because by the time the doctor looked at my blood work and anybody who's ever worked in western medicine knows that you don't want to get a phone call because that usually means there's a problem. One of the rule of thumb in western medicine is you only call the people who have an issue. Otherwise, there's too many people to call. And this doctor called me and she's like, yeah, I'm calling by your blood work and then I just immediately panicked because I was like, oh my God, what is it?

What'd you find? She goes, well, just calm down, calm down. Everything's fine. I'm like, oh, then why are you calling? She said, well, to be quite honest with you, all the people in the lab that do all the labs and including me, the doctor reading the results. She said, in over 30 years of doing this, I've never once in my entire life seen blood like yours.

And I was like, okay, what do you mean? She said, it's incredible. She goes, you have no nutritional deficiencies and your blood looks so unbelievably healthy. She said, if I'm quite honest with you, and this is off the record because I'm not going to give her name. I've had this happen with a lot of doctors and they don't ever want to say anything publicly.

But she admitted to me. She said, I have a lot of sick patients and I am not able to help. nd I can't help them. She says, no matter what I do, I cannot seem to help my own patients. And to be quite honest, she said, my daughter's also sick, and I can't help her either. And she's like, and I have my own set of medical issues. And she's in whatever it is you're doing, I want to know what it is, because this is so unbelievable, that I'm sure you're doing something. Am I not right? And I said, oh yeah, I'm doing something.

Greg The Hydrogen Man : She was like, what the heck is it? She's like, what's the secret? You know, and then I didn't really want to tell her because it would just be such a waste of time, because I know what her response would be, because it's always a same.

But she kept pushing. And finally I said, look, I clean my water to the highest degree. I infuse, I dissolve it with the best hydrogen device in the world that makes it proper levels, safe. I have a specific protocol I follow with the hydrogen.

I make these health smoothies. And then she just stopped and she goes, okay, hold on, hold on. She was like, my patients are not going to do that.

They're not going to go and start cleaning their water to the highest degree and making what hydrogen stuff you're talking about. She said, I just thought you were taking some pill. I thought there was some magic pill out there.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: It's amazing how many people are still looking for that magic pill.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Oh man, I just seriously, it happens all the time. And yeah, my protocols take a little bit of time, but they're totally doable. They're not outrageous. Yeah.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: I want to toss in my other question before, because we'll go other places. Sure. I'm wondering if anybody has tried adding hydrogen into hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: That's exactly what I'm working with with a medical gas specialist that I had mentioned.

TalkToMeGuy: I've interviewed two of the foremost experts, Dr. Newberger, who is the medical doctor who 30 years ago brought hyperbaric oxygen tanks into hospitals for stroke patients. And then Dr. Hatch, who teaches at somewhere in Louisiana, I think. Interesting.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: You know, these would be two guys that I would actually really like to touch base with, because hyperbarics is something that I'm very interested in, and I know that it'll work. I have my own theories of how to maybe potentially improve it. And the problem is that they're always focused on oxygen. And the bigger problem is that a lot of these doctors I've uncovered, that they went completely down the wrong route with hydrogen, because they didn't study from Japan. They tried to learn stuff in America. And boy, the whole hydrogen thing in America, in my personal opinion, it's just totally wrong.

Either corrupt or just a lot of incorrect information and how you go about it. But one of my goals is to connect people like them to people in Japan, so that that way they can work together and do this correctly and properly. But yeah, I would love an introduction if you're ever open to it, because they don't know how to do it very well.

And it's very new. And you're going to want to do it right, obviously. And yes, I think it can have profound implications. In fact, one of the most recent ones was working with somebody with a brain tumor. And that particular doctor that I was mentioning who I've been working with, he used the Japanese device, because he found out that people were using the wrong equipment, which is what I found too. Like, again, back to using equipment that was, they used cheap metals. They used plated metals and the stainless steel and like I

TalkToMeGuy: said, sounds just like the ozone industry. Go ahead.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yep. I think it probably is the very same thing. And you always have to find that one person who wanted to do it for the right reasons, which always ends up coming down to a family member that was sick. I mean, that's what I've always noticed, just like that doctor and what not.

People you love, you know, you want to do the right thing. So anyway, he did part of my technique, as far as my hydrogen suggestions. He did it with some hyperbaric and this particular person's with a brain tumor, their brain tumor is gone. I just got the literally the images of it yesterday. And so it's really an incredible science and incredible technology. And I think it is going to be definitely the future of medicine, though it's already here, a lot of it. But in America, it just hasn't really become that. It's just been too much bad info. So it's not really working very good.

But I think in the future, we're going to hopefully see good things because you're going to run into a lot of problems. In fact, it happened in Japan. The corruption, you know, likes to pee its ugly head everywhere. And it caused a lot of issues in Japan also. And it's actually, you know, ironically, this was really ironic, Richard. It's one of the reasons that this machine that I that I like from holy hydrogen shot to the top in Japan and became number one, for that exact exact reason that people were selling products that were inferior and quite possibly even dangerous.

And and when that caused issues, even with the government in Japan, the best machines that were actually safe and really good shot to the top and became, you know, more well known.

TalkToMeGuy: And I again, I have somebody asking in chat a question about can they pour H2 water into his eyes for floaters, cataracts, macular degeneration, near farted sight in this having benefit to the eyes?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: I do have a whole protocol for that. And it's a protocol that please don't ever do it the wrong way. Because if you do it the wrong way, it will be very detrimental to the eyes and potentially even to the brain, because you know, the eyes are attached to the brain. If you do it properly. Yes, I have done protocols like that and have seen remarkable things. In fact, I've worked with people see macular degeneration supposed to be completely incurable.

Right. I've got multiple people who they're macular degeneration is gone. I've also worked with people at glaucoma, my own father had glaucoma for over three decades. And his doctor, it was such a hilarious story, because when he has to get his eyes checked every year, and when he got his eyes checked, and they showed that he was coming up negative, his own doctor didn't believe the results. Because his doctor was like, no way, you've been coming here for over 30 years, I know you got glaucoma.

So they kept bringing them back to retest them every time it come back negative. They ended up sending them to one of the number one experts on the West Coast, because they couldn't, they couldn't believe that his glaucoma disappeared. And then all of a sudden I started noticing vision improvement. So I started helping people improve their vision and stop using glasses.

And it was just so unbelievable, all the things that I've seen hydrogen do for the eyes. You will never ever want to do such a protocol. Unless you carbon distill your water, please watch my video 388 on how to do that. I think this is important, Richard. So I'm going to share it. Have you ever heard of the neti pot? Yes. Okay. Are you aware that people have died from using the neti pot? Not surprised. Yeah. But do you know why they died?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: No, probably some sort of bacteria in their neti pot.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: That's right. They didn't read the directions and the directions specifically say to only use this distilled water. Because all other water is going to most likely have some bacteria, some virus, parasite, mold, some type of pathogen. Pesticides. Yep.

All sorts of stuff. And so when you carbon distill the water, which I have the lab reports to prove it, I mean, that's how you really, really, really clean your water, right? Is the process of distillation and either carbon filtration and or reverse osmosis. So I take reverse osmosis water and then I distill it. And then that's how I get my super clean water.

And then you can run into your sinuses or do these eye protocols. And of course, please don't use the wrong hydrogen equipment either. That is going to make it just please don't do it. I've seen too many people be harmed by doing hydrogen improperly.

It just breaks my heart. So yeah, that would be my answer. Just as long as you do the right water in the right hydrogen machine, in my opinion, yes, you can definitely do protocols for the eyes.

TalkToMeGuy: Again, I agree completely from the ozone world. I almost used a very bad word. I've gone into situations where people were trying to purify maybe just their local just maybe their own personal hot tub. And they got some sort of, you know, $99 eBay ozone generator, which was insert bad word here. And I would rip that out and I would reinstall, you know, a clean high quality ozone generator. And they would be stunned at water quality difference.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yes, yes, it really all comes down to the science or the engineering of the equipment. And I just people have not learned that in the hydrogen world. In fact, I hate to admit this.

And you probably know this, Richard. I mean, I get a lot of hate online, but all the hate I get is from the companies that sell garbage products. Yeah, because I talk about it. They hate that. Yeah, yeah.

TalkToMeGuy: I actually, I haven't I mean, I've talked a lot about ozone on on shows in the many years that I've been doing this. But that's because I'm a fan of it. And I've seen what it can do both in terms of just in simple water quality, bathing water quality. If you have a well designed ozone system, it's a it is miraculous, the kind of water quality you can have, how it makes you feel, how it makes your skin feel, you don't come out dry and irritated with all sorts of stuff. And again, the same thing for years, because I was always around it, I would use ozone water purified. I would have a system for just drinking water to purify with ozone.

Yeah. And it would, you know, just give me the nicest, greatest finish of water. I would often run it, I would again, like you, I would run it through some sort of very deep multi media system and then finish it by running it through carbon at the very last. And then I would ozonate it. And then I drank that ozonated water while it was still active, because it was being produced all the time. And it was amazing. It was just delicious.

And people are always like, why does this water taste so good? You know, yeah, they don't want to do it. But you know, they love the product of like, I could I get bottles of that? No, no, you can't buy the system.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: People ask that all the time. I completely agree with you. They want to buy bottles of it. But the good news is it's not expensive. I mean, I probably shouldn't name the websites of the equipment that I use, unless you think your viewers will want to know. I mean, they don't know, please do.

TalkToMeGuy: No, please do.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: I mean, what I use for cleaning my water, the carbon distiller I use is an American made one. It's not on use, the Chinese ones. And it's from a website called my pure water.com. I don't know, do you think your audience cares about a coupon? I mean, if you want to do that, please.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, people want to coupon code, it's uprising 144k. It just gives you a discount. And I purify my water through that. And then I put it in the best hydrogen generator, which is the holy hydrogen.com one, the Japanese one. And they made it, the Japanese made it so nice, they made it really small, which is nice because some of the pieces of equipment are really big.

It's really small. It's really easy to use. They literally put it in a pitcher. So you can just pour the water, you know, really simple, really easy to use.

It's literally one button, which makes it really easy to use too. So, you know, the Japanese are going to make things simple a lot of times, the technology. And what's also pretty fascinating, if you can even believe this, Richard, they're the only company in the world, which is weird. There should be more companies doing this, but they're the only one that lab tests and certifies every single machine they make in order to show you that it's making the proper levels of hydrogen, which is one of the reasons it's the most trusted machine by medical professionals in Japan.

In fact, there's a neurosurgeon who's really smart and a hydrogen professional in Japan. He says he literally won't use any other device. He said it's the only piece of equipment out there that's any good, which is sad. You'd hope that there's like 10 or 20 or 30 good machines out there, but there's only one. I'm like, really? And lately there is a new one that came out, but it's really expensive and it's actually not as good as the Holy Hydrogen one. So it is Japanese also, but it's like over $30,000 for the other piece of equipment, which is just way too much for a very average person.

TalkToMeGuy: So what might happen? We'll talk about this from a cinematically perspective because it makes it like it's over there on the screen. If instead of using a saline solution in the operatory, what would happen if they used currently stimulated hydrogen water as a rinsing agent instead of saline solution? Wouldn't that improve the vitality of the tissue they're working on?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, well, you know, they're using, so just so you know, there is already research on, for example, organ transplants and they use hydrogen. Huh? Yeah, it's amazing. One, it helps people minimize the rejection of the organ, which is crazy. I've seen hydrogen reduce the risk of infection big time. Like I've known people who literally get like, I'm not going to name names again, but there's somebody that I know who would get UTIs regularly and it drove her nuts and she would constantly have to take antibiotics and she started using hydrogen and stopped having UTIs, you know? And I've seen this a lot.

I've seen this so many times. And I think a lot of it too, hydrogen is amazing for the gut. I mean, almost 80% of our immune systems in the gut. And we know the relationship between a healthy microbiome and health and hydrogen is amazing for the gut. You know, leaky gut, IBS, you know, Crohn's disease, Celiac disease, I've worked with people like that who literally told me that they had spent a small fortune trying all sorts of naturopathic physicians and doctors and everything else with zero results. And then they just get a very inexpensive hydrogen generator with good clean water and follow that protocol and all of a sudden their issues are better. And they just disappear. Sorry, I don't know if I really answered your question with that one.

TalkToMeGuy: That's all right. Well, I mean, given the, this is an old thing that I have is that given the opportunity, the body will heal itself. And to me, what that means is that we have to deal with one of my favorite hashtags is total toxic load. Yes. Because I feel that our total toxic load in this world today is string of bad words.

I mean, it's just mind blowing at how much we seem to be going out of our way, our industry is going out of their way to throw pollution into the atmosphere like it's a toilet bowl. Yes.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: I hate to say this. I actually think that they're doing it on purpose. And I'm not even a conspiracy theorist, but there's so much that I believe the pure life that I've been trying to live and the hydrogen has done something to my brain where so many things just come so easy to me and I can see so much.

And they're doing this on purpose. And I hate to bring this up because I'm more of a science and data guy, but I do think it's highly spiritual. You know, the fact that they're trying to pollute this body so that you can't think clearly, so they can take advantage of you.

So you can be duped and tricked, you know, and you lose connection to what I call source. And hydrogen has been something that just surprised me that it helps so much. You know, I call it Richard, I call it the ascension molecule, because hydrogen ascends.

It literally like a balloon, it literally goes up into the heavens. And you look at our sun, which is so magical, which is the whole way that planet Earth purifies water, starts with hydrogen, it starts with the sun. And as you probably know, many ancient cult cultures, where do they worship? They worship the sun. Of course. Look at the Japanese flag, they got the sun right on there.

Yeah. You know, and all the stars in the heavens. And I mean, literally outer space is made of almost entirely hydrogen. You know, so it's a very spiritual molecule that, you know, I think we're going to discover all the different things just like water and air. And I'm not trying to bring scripture into this, because I'm not religious, but I don't judge anybody who is, but in the scriptures, when Jesus talked about being quote unquote born again, he says you got to be born again of water. And then he said the word spirit, which also means wind, which to me means air. And water and wind or water and air are absolutely foundational to good health. And as you and I were just, you were just mentioning about toxicity.

Yeah. I mean, they literally spray the skies. And this is not a conspiracy anymore. We know they do what they call geoengineering.

I mean, we know they're doing it now. This is real, you know, and that's one of the major reasons that I use hydrogen regularly is because how protective back to that thing I told you originally, how protective it is when you're exposed to all these chemicals and all these different things in order for you not to go down, you know, a path of getting ill, you know. So I had a video, it's video 68 of how back to this Japanese machine, they did what's called a live blood analysis. And what it's doing for the blood is so unbelievable.

The way it makes the blood move, for example, I had a doctor see the video and she wanted to prove me wrong. She thought it was a scam, just like I originally thought it was. She literally bought the same equipment because it's quite affordable. And she took it to her own lab, did the same exact study to try to prove me wrong. And all she did was prove me right.

And then I'm coming out exactly the same as the Japanese study. And she was so blown away, she started giving the hydrogen to her mother, who was almost 100 years old. And I still remember this story because her mother told her daughter, she said, look, honey, I trust everything that you give me, you're a doctor, you're my daughter, I know you love me. And she's always bringing her something new. She's like, oh, here's this chaga mushroom, and here's this new lion's mane or this new supplement. She was always giving her mom something trying to help her with her issues, because her mother could barely stand up and walk for like two minutes and she was exhausted.

And apparently when she started using the holy hydrogen device, she literally could stand up and start walking for hours. And she told her daughter, she said, honey, you give you give me all these different things. And I never ask you what it is. But this is the one time I want to ask you, what in the world are you giving me with this water? Because all I can see is that it's just water. And I don't understand what it's doing. But whatever it's doing, this is the one, you've always wanted to find what the answer is of all these things you bring me. She was, this is it, I can feel it. And I can walk around now and I have so much more energy back to the mitochondria, where you produce your energy.

And so it was really, really impressive. I find that the elderly get the most benefit from hydrogen, by the way, more than the young people. And that probably goes for a lot of things, right? Young people are usually pretty vibrant and more energy. And as you get older, I mean, the statistics clearly show as you age, that comes with medical issues.

TalkToMeGuy: Well, I think that's, you know, my, could be a grind, but I'll pretend it's not a grind. On that is that, again, back to total toxic load. I mean, what we're doing, I mean, we're on the planet of walking around bags of water.

TalkToMeGuy: To be a little harsh. And, you know, we just gather all this stuff. And so of course, by the time you're in your 70s, you're going to have all sorts of conditions, because you've been walking around in this toxic environment. Maybe you eat kind of a good diet, and maybe you meditate, and maybe you do things. But the air in the water that we're exposed to, or air a lot, and the food is often some way toxic, has some sort of toxin, it has some sort of byproduct on it. You know, human sludge trials, that's a whole other thing producing, you know, making fertilizer out of human sludge. That's a whole separate show. I interviewed the guy who was a whistleblower for that, and then sort of disappeared David Lewis.

Wrote that book about sludge. And so we just have this all sorts of exposure. And I'm just talking about, as you would say, you know, chemical scientific information that could be available if we would actually observe it.

I'm not talking about the spiritual aspects, or the benefits of meditation, or being in nature, all those kind of benefits. And so of course, we're going to be exposed to hydrogen. And it makes sense to me that when an older person who's like a little foggy in the head, or has something going on, is exposed to hydrogen on a regular basis for a while, they suddenly the lights go back on.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. One of the interesting things I was mentioning, what hydrogen does for the blood, the number one university in the world that researches hydrogen, which is the Japanese university called KO University discovered, that hydrogen also opens up ghost vessels. Now, ironically, a lot of people don't even know what ghost vessels are. Have you ever heard of the term?

No. And it's funny, because it's a medical term that even doctors haven't heard of. But basically, we have these blood vessels that when we were little, like when we were a little baby, and if you ever seen a little baby or held one, you know, they're very plump and very hydrated and very different than somebody who's 90s, you know, their skin, for example. And what happens is we have these places where blood supply goes into, and as you age, blood supply stops making it into these areas. And if you're not bringing blood there, you're not bringing life there, and you're not bringing nutrients. And it's very important if you can get blood supply to these, they call them ghost vessels, because it's like a ghost town, there's there's no life coming into there. And hydrogen appears to open up those ghost vessels and start getting blood supply in there again, which is really a big deal. I mean, it's huge that hydrogen does that.

The Japanese had to be cautious because the scientists who were discovering this wanted to say how positive this could potentially be because I'm not making any claims here. But for maybe if you caught a cold or some type of weird virus out there or whatever, because obviously hydrogen was something that was looked at for potentially an inflammation of the lungs, which could be caused by all sorts of different things. I've worked with a lot of people with a lot of lung disorders with great success, really shocked, actually. And one guy, I remember this one guy, he smoked three packs of cigarettes a day for 50 years. And this poor guy was so screwed up that, of course, this is one of the big mistakes that they make in the medical industry is they put them on oxygen, right? Yeah.

And you think, Oh, that's great. No, you don't realize that you don't actually want to be on oxygen very long, because your body begins to adapt to the supplemental oxygen and what do they got to do? They got to keep giving you more and more and more because the body's adapting to these high amounts of oxygen, which is not good. In fact, people don't realize, like pro athletes, for example, you do the opposite, you actually want to do like high altitude training where you limit the amount of oxygen. And you do that because the body will produce more red blood cells because you're straining it, which is good. And then once, you know, you're in a proper environment with normal amounts of oxygen, your body's going to do real good. But if you're supplementing and giving too much, your body will actually stop making as many red blood cells.

So this is not a good thing. And this guy became so dependent on his oxygen that he literally couldn't get off of it for like 30 seconds. He literally had to be on it all day long, everywhere he went. And he said it was just ruining his life.

And he found me. And he's like, do you think hydrogen would help? And I said, well, in my personal opinion, I think it would, but I can't guarantee that.

But of course, I'd love to see what happens. And sure enough, he followed the proper protocol, best equipment, using the water and hydrogen gas correctly. That's one of the things I like about the equipment that I use, the holy hydrogen equipments that it does both, it makes the best water there is for hydrogen, and it also makes perfect levels and purity of hydrogen gas inhalation. And so this guy was doing both. And eventually he was able to be off the oxygen. It took him about six months to get off oxygen for about four to six hours a day, which was huge for him. That was a huge improvement. And his oxygen saturation levels, you're going to like this, Richard. He's not even using oxygen, he's just using hydrogen, but yet his oxygen saturation levels went up in his blood. You know why?

Just because basically your body, you were already breath oxygen. That's what people don't realize. We already are getting 20, 21% oxygen. It's more of a matter of getting your body to have the ability to utilize what you're already taken in properly.

So it's all about efficiency. And how hydrogen affects the pH of the blood. I think a lot of people don't know the pH stands for potential hydrogen. And the pH of your blood really dictates a lot of how good oxygen will absorb into or saturate into your blood and how it's utilized by the body. And I think that was one of the craziest things when I brought up the example of the doctor who had done my blood work, the one that does it for over 30 years, because she couldn't understand how it was absorbing nutrients so well. And that's partially in my opinion, the hydrogen.

But I also found some preliminary research. So this is not a guarantee, but I feel quite confident at this point after using this stuff for so long, is that it appears my body's making a lot of its own nutrients. So I've gotten my body to produce its own nutrients in a major way.

Because when the doctor wanted to know about my diet, and I hate talking about diet, because it's like talking about religion, everybody gets so weird, I don't even want to talk about it anymore. But I'm following the data from Japan, I'm not listening to all these different people's diet ideas, I just following data, and the Japanese are, well, they have the longest life expectancy of any industrialized nation in the world. And if you ever live there, you can see clearly that their diets are really good, very healthy, a lot of wisdom, very deep understanding when it comes to diet. And I noticed that getting your body to produce a certain these nutrients on its own is so unbelievable. And when that doctor asked me about my diet, she's like, there's no way that you're getting these nutrients to your diet. She goes, there's just no way I don't understand how you're getting these nutrients. And I think it's that I've gotten my body based on Japanese science to produce its own nutrients. And not just with hydrogen, by the way, it's a combination. I use hydrogen, and I also use a lot of fiber.

I think that that's going to be one of the big things in the future, Richard. The Japanese have been doing some really amazing research on fiber, and not like a supplement, they discovered that every fiber from every different fruit, vegetable, nuts, seed, bean, all these different foods, mushrooms, they all have a different, very profound effect on the human body that we're not aware of. So fiber is hugely important for the human body. And I mean, just look at a gorilla, what do they eat? They literally eat nothing but plants all day. And look at them. Yeah.

TalkToMeGuy: And I also think that this is a personal issue in the best of ways. I'm a huge fan of Natto. And I think Natto is a miracle food, but that's a whole other show. Oh, it is.

But I really do think it is. I mean, I think it's just, you know, I have friends who make their own Natto. I used to actually have a company here in town who made organic soybean Natto, and I would buy it at the grocery store and just like have one for a snack. And it's just, it's an acquired taste, maybe I've always liked it. And I just think it's a superfood. It's a fabulous anti, you know, anti inflammatory. It's just with all sorts of micronutrients in it. And it's fermented. It's a win-win-win. Give me Natto.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Oh, it's one of the top superfoods in the world. The Japanese have done so much research on Natto. It's easily top five superfood in the world. It has almost as much protein as beef, by the way. But yet it's really good for your microbiome. Super good nutrients, really loaded with vitamin K. Unbelievable stuff. I actually have a protocol where I use it because one of the beautiful things about Natto, I actually use it with hydrogen, Richard, because the Japanese have discovered, obviously has a very special enzyme called Natto kinase, which everybody finally learned what it was. I've known about it forever.

And I've been using it forever. And it's really good at purifying because of the enzymes and breaking things down like blood clots and stuff. There's data on that. But beyond that is how it thins the blood. Are you aware that probably very few doctors know this other than the Japanese? You have to be very cautious if you consume Natto and if you're taking a statin. Were you aware of that? Yeah. You know, it just thins the blood so much. But if you thin the blood with Natto and you use something like hydrogen that opens up the ghost vessels and gets your blood moving perfectly, the only last piece is to bring all the nutrients in which I do. And it just works. That combination works so beautifully, like so perfect. And like I said, the things that I constantly see are just mind boggling. But yes, I'm a fan of Natto.

TalkToMeGuy: Yeah. Yeah. I have a couple of questions from chat. And then we're surprisingly we're already over. So we're going to be wrapping it up shortly. The question, somebody went to the MyPure water site and they said, which distiller do you use because there are many models there?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah. So here's the thing. Every single distiller that they sell is going to make the same quality of water, meaning super high quality, super clean water. So the reason that they have so many different kinds is just options.

It's kind of like cars. You know, do you want a moonroof? Do you want leather? You know, what color car do you want?

Whatever. And so you can either get a really cheap countertop system with the discount code, I think it's like 600 and something bucks. And these things will last you like forever. I've had, I run mine constantly, never breaks down. And so you can get one of the cheap ones.

Now, if I owned a home and I was well off financially, I would get one of their big ones because they're big ones. You hook them up to the water lines. And it literally does it all automatically. And all you do is have a little spigot where you just pull a nozzle and clean water comes out whenever you want it. Whereas if you get the countertop, you have to refill it constantly, which is what I do every morning. I put a fresh gallon in there and turn it on. And I make one gallon at a time. So that's, I don't know if that answers a question, but they all make the same quality of water. It's just a matter of options.

TalkToMeGuy: Right. And somebody's asking, I think this is an interesting question about hyperbaric oxygen therapy. Is it not advised because we're pressurizing oxygen into the tissue?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: No, it's not that it's not advised, but you would not want to do it regularly. So you can do it. See, that's the thing about oxygen therapy. And I don't know if ozone's the same, but I would kind of assume so, but it's a little different with oxygen. You don't want to use it all the time. Like, again, you already breathed in in your atmosphere about 20%. And if you start supplementing oxygen regularly, it's not going to be a good idea. I don't think hyperbaric chambers are good with oxygen at least to do regularly.

I don't think it's a great idea. Now, if they started using hydrogen therapy for hyperbaric, I think that would be a different story. I think you could use that more regularly because hydrogen I found you can use basically all the time. Whereas if I were to do things with oxygen, I would not do it all the time.

TalkToMeGuy: And so let's for a moment say that you were going to go into a hyperbaric tank, but they were only going to pressurize. Wouldn't they have to give you some percentage of oxygen?

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Yeah, so this would answer your question, Richard. In deep sea diving, I don't know how much everybody out there is aware of diving. When you go deep sea diving below 60 feet, they totally have to change the gases in your tanks. So when you're not diving super deep, they use a very large percentage of oxygen. When you go deep sea, they literally have to remove almost all the oxygen out of the tank.

I don't know if you're aware of that. Because oxygen is, I hate to tell you, it's toxic. And I know people don't realize that oxygen is toxic. And when you're underwater, deep in the ocean, what we're talking about is the body's pressurized underwater and oxygen's going to build up and it's going to cost toxicity.

And so what they do for the deep sea diving tanks is they use a very large amount of hydrogen, molecular hydrogen, and they use a large amount of helium, which helium to me is basically kind of just another form of hydrogen, kind of like the way ozone is another form of oxygen. It's just an additional oxygen molecule, O3. And so that's why they have to use, when I say less oxygen, they use almost nothing. They use like a sliver of oxygen. So do you need some? Yeah, but not much, just very, very, very little.

TalkToMeGuy: Okay, okay. I think we have to stop now. Nothing personal. We could do this for hours. We could, it's sort of like, you know, Blackjack or some sort of card game where I throw a card down, you throw a card down. We could keep this going for quite some time.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: And by the way, not to interrupt you, but if you've ever, you can, people can Google it, oxygen toxicity. They've had people have that happens to from breathing, what they call molecular oxygen at increased pressures.

You know, so again, if you were to be in a hyperbaric chamber or something, you know, so I do think that it can be used, but you have to know definitely proper protocols. And you've heard of HBOT before, right? Yeah. Yeah. So they have specific protocols on how to use, you know, again, oxygen properly, because it is not something you want to use all the time.

TalkToMeGuy: Well, as you said, see, this is how it happens. As you said, I wouldn't want to use ozone all the time. If I was, if I was dealing with a specific health thing that I had to, well, let me back up. The head of the Veterans Administration, Carpondale, Dr. Carpondale, back when AIDS was highly active in the Bay Area, that's where this Veterans Hospital was in the West Coast, was in San Francisco. He used daily insufflations, which is a rectal insertion of ozone under the system for patients who had AIDS.

And it kept them alive and it kept their immune system strong enough to keep them somewhat healthy while they were working on early protocols. So you could use it in some situations, but that's a lower dose. That's not an IV ozone. That's a higher level of putting ozone in. And you wouldn't want to do it all the time.

You want to do it for a period of time, maybe let's say 10 days or two weeks, and then stop and let the body sort of resettle. Because as you say, ozone is aggressive. And that's the idea of what it's doing. It's going in there and that the ozone molecule is diatomic, so it always wants to be two. So what you actually have is O2 plus one, so that's O3. And that single oxygen molecule, as we used to joke in the industry, is horny to bond. And so what happens is when it breaks away and attaches to a pathogen, it has so much oxidative reductive potential, meaning charge to it, that it explodes that cell wall on contact.

Well, you don't want that going on all the time, because it's an aggressive thing. And it's dumping a lot, you know, when that cell, when that pathogen blows up, it's still leaving particulate in its field. So you want the body time to process and then do it again in another period of time. And I suspect your protocols are similar in that you do some of them for a period of time.

Maybe you take a break every two weeks or I don't know, I'm making up the numbers. But you want to give the body some time to have adaption on its own and then return to the protocol.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: You know, and the point that you're making is very interesting too, because like vitamin C, for example, and we know about, well, most people know about the research that they've done on vitamin C for cancer, for example. But vitamin C, yes, it's an antioxidant.

Yes, it's not as small as hydrogen, which means it's not as good. But either way, vitamin C is an indiscriminate antioxidant. So it can actually be bad for you too, you know, if you overdo it. Whereas hydrogen is what we call a selective antioxidant. It doesn't just antioxidize indiscriminately. Personally, I think hydrogen brings balance back to the body. That's why when you're using oxygen, hydrogen will help balance it all out. You know, that's why I really think it's important for people who are on oxygen or ozone. In fact, I worked with some clinics that use ozone.

To me, it's an absolute no-brainer. Like, I almost think it's foolish if you don't use hydrogen while using ozone or oxygen therapies, because it helps balance the whole equation and helps them be, it actually helps it work better from everything that I've seen, you know. And even, I know we're running out of time, but even the way that I've noticed, this is some of my most latest research, is sunlight. And all the benefits of sunlight, but people don't realize, and there's some really good data coming out of Japan, sunlight can be damaging to the body.

The one thing that helps not only protect the body, or even get greater benefit from sunlight, which I've already uncovered on my own, is the combination of hydrogen with sunlight. So I started noticing that a lot of my clients and people who follow my protocols, family members, they started noticing that they weren't burning in the sun. I noticed that too, I started thinking, why am I not burning? Like, if I spent too much time out there, you know, usually you burn a little on your shoulders or your nose or something. And I wasn't burning.

And other people that I knew weren't either. And we started noticing a correlation in how much hydrogen protects the skin, how much antioxidants are important to battling the effects of the sun that can be so oxidizing. So, it's just very interesting stuff.

TalkToMeGuy: It's all, it makes so much sense to me, that's a whole other show we could just do about talking about hydrogen and ozone together as a protocol would be unboring to me.

Because it just seems to make so much sense. Because the ozone is very aggressive. It won't kill you, but it could make you toxic from just die-off and all sorts of stuff. So the idea of having a counter-balancing agent like hydrogen to help support and give the body energy while you're going through that protocol, it makes so much sense.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: And if anything, hydrogen to me, I've noticed, works, it makes every protocol work better. Because so many protocols are oxidizing, even like the red light therapy or the sun hitting you. These things are oxidizing. They can be damaging just like ozone. But there's benefit to it. And then that's where hydrogen comes in.

So they just work so beautifully together. I really hope, I mean, if any doctors hear this show, I mean, I always encourage people or if people want to connect me to doctors just like the ones that you were talking about, because they really are lacking a lot of knowledge on hydrogen and how to do it properly. It requires so much study and so much time in Japan to learn all this stuff. And I've accumulated all this data. So I'm happy to share it because for me, the most important, one of the most important things in my life is really helping other people. And it's a commitment I made when I was sick, that if I ever found the answers, I would share them. And that's why I do what I do now. I share it because I know what suffering is like. And all you want is quality of life while you're alive.

Really, that's what you want. Because that's how you can share your happiness and love with your friends, your family. And it's your life. And you want people to be happy because that's going to make you happy. We are really all connected. And so that's why that's my motto and part of what I do now.

TalkToMeGuy: All right, Greg, thank you so much. That was great.

Greg The Hydrogen Man: Absolutely. Thank you, Richard. It was a great conversation. Thank you.